Double Play, Forced Play? I don't think so...

[oswalmar]

I am from Venezuela and the umpires who made the call are not members of this forum. Regarding the comment of Rich Ives, I think this is not an appeal play, is a continuos play.

Probably I did not know to explain the situation correctly. The Runner went to second before the pitcher had compromised to pitch to home. Then when the fly is caught, he returned at 1B, not at 2B, then the throw goes to first base, which is tagged. My questions are: Is it Out? It should not be touched the runner? Reactivates the runner's situation according the Rule 7.08 (e) says?

It is difficult to communicate in a second language so I'm not completely sure what you are saying.

If the runner reached second base before the pitcher made any motion in any way related to delivering a pitch then the runner is considered to be at second base and it is not a tag appeal.

If the pitcher made any motion at all that is part of delivering a pitch before the runner reached second base then it is a failure to tag appeal.

It does not seem reasonable that a pitcher would just stand motionless and let the runner go to second base, so I'm having a hard time with this. Is that what really happened?

Guys, I apologize for the "rabbits" that I placed in my comments. That happens to all who does not handle a language with complete ease. I promise that in future try to use the right terms when making my comments. That's right, it is better to say "Step Off" than "Detaches".Thank you.

Yes, it did. Very rare. But the pitcher let the R1 reach 2B without doing anything about it and then the R1 at firstwrongly return, causing the throw to the 1B.

[oswalmar]

Ultimately, and now cleared the confusion created by me, I think exists unity of criteria that the R1 only can be put out if it is tagged with the ball off 1B.

[johnnyg08]

Could be a case of defensive indifference where fielders were guarding against something else.

And that my friend is a 15 yard penalty.

[sdix00]

At this point, it should be clear as mud to the guy who doesn't speak English.