2025 NCAA Rules Test Thread

[scubabob34]

18 hours ago, BravoUmp said:

I must have missed that interpretation and strictly went with the book. I will have to go back and rewatch so that I can quote who gave the interpretation as I know this will come up in a game. 

The difficulty factor just went up, especially in games without instant replay. I would imagine you would have to rely on HP umpire to help with collision factor much like running lane. With that interpretation, we now have to officiate the play with fielder on base, firm and secure possession, and judge if there was possibility of a collision to determine if he stepped on correct base.

 

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[JSam21]

14 hours ago, Replacematt said:

It is your problem, since you have to inform them of their suspension.

While I agree we do, we don't know what number the ejection is. Great way around this, "There will be an additional suspension". Then we let the conference figure it out. 

 

[JSam21]

19 hours ago, BravoUmp said:

There was 3 that I disagreed with based on the verbiage: Correct answers according to test in Blue

Lineups become official when:

1. The lineup cards have been exchanged, verified and then accepted by the plate umpire during the pregame conference.
2. The umpire hands a copy to each coach.

The rule quote from 4-4a is: a.    Receive from the home team and visiting team their respective batting orders, in duplicate. The umpire will determine that the copies are identical, keep one copy and give the other copy to the opposing team’s representative. The umpire now is officially in charge of the game, and the lineups are official

The #2 answer leaves out the determination that cards are identical (verified) and then given to coach (exchanged).

 

Another one I disagree with:

Beginning with the 2025 season, NCAA baseball games can no longer be played at stadiums with no protective fencing in front of the dugouts.

1. True
2. False

The rule quote 1-16: Facilities for collegiate baseball shall have protective fencing or netting on the field side of the dugout at a height not less than three feet from the field level. It is required effective Jan. 1, 2024, for Division I and Jan. 1, 2025, for Divisions II and III.

The key word here is "Facilities for collegiate baseball". So does that mean games at professional stadiums, perfect game parks without netting cannot be played? The rule states for facilities for college baseball, not ALL stadiums.

 

And Finally, 

B2 hits a ground ball to the shortstop whose throw to first base pulls the fielder off the white portion of the double first base. B2 touches the white portion of the base in an effort to avoid a collision.

1. B2 can only be safe if they touch the colored portion of the base during this type of play.
2. B2 can touch either portion of the double base and can run in fair territory in an effort to avoid a collision.

The rule 1-7-b-3: 3) If there is a play on the batter-runner and the batter-runner touches only the white portion of the double base and the defense appeals prior to the batter-runner returning to first base, it is treated the same as
missing the base.
PENALTY for (3)—Batter-runner is out.

The only situation that the runner can touch the white bag with a play being made is on a dropped third strike. 

It doesn't say "institutionally owned"... So if a college baseball game is being played there, it is a facility for collegiate baseball. If it doesn't have the required protective fencing, the game should not be played. 

[zoops]

On 1/22/2025 at 2:09 PM, BravoUmp said:

There was 3 that I disagreed with based on the verbiage: Correct answers according to test in Blue

Lineups become official when:

1. The lineup cards have been exchanged, verified and then accepted by the plate umpire during the pregame conference.
2. The umpire hands a copy to each coach.

The rule quote from 4-4a is: a.    Receive from the home team and visiting team their respective batting orders, in duplicate. The umpire will determine that the copies are identical, keep one copy and give the other copy to the opposing team’s representative. The umpire now is officially in charge of the game, and the lineups are official

The #2 answer leaves out the determination that cards are identical (verified) and then given to coach (exchanged).

 

I've umpired for over 20 years (over 10 in NCAA) and I can't remember ever seeing coaches hand the umpire 2 copies of their lineup with one being passed onto the other coach.  Is this new?

[noumpere]

14 hours ago, zoops said:

I've umpired for over 20 years (over 10 in NCAA) and I can't remember ever seeing coaches hand the umpire 2 copies of their lineup with one being passed onto the other coach.  Is this new?

When I umpired, the coaches usually handed one copy to the umpire and the other to the other coach..    While not according to the book, we usually didn't care.  A few coaches would hand both copies to the umpire who would tear them apart and hand them out.

[Replacematt]

16 hours ago, zoops said:

I've umpired for over 20 years (over 10 in NCAA) and I can't remember ever seeing coaches hand the umpire 2 copies of their lineup with one being passed onto the other coach.  Is this new?

Nope, not new. Often it isn't followed at lower levels.

[Replacematt]

On 1/3/2025 at 6:35 PM, grayhawk said:

I think one of the ones I got wrong was the penalty for the catcher applying a foreign substance. I answered the catcher and head coach. I answered that way even though I can't find that penalty specifically in the rules, I can't imagine why we wouldn't EJ the catcher. The correct answer must be the pitcher and head coach are ejected.

Today's foreign-substance video shows how to enforce this.

[grayhawk]

4 hours ago, Replacematt said:

Today's foreign-substance video shows how to enforce this.

Yep. Catcher gets to stay in. Confiscate the chest protector (or whatever had the foreign substance on it).

[Replacematt]

3 hours ago, grayhawk said:

Yep. Catcher gets to stay in. Confiscate the chest protector (or whatever had the foreign substance on it).

You could have put a spoiler alert for those who haven't seen the movie...

[Richvee]

What do we do with the glove or gear after the game? Just give it back? Also wondering what a “secure area” would be on some fields. 

[Replacematt]

2 hours ago, Richvee said:

What do we do with the glove or gear after the game? Just give it back? Also wondering what a “secure area” would be on some fields. 

A call to your conference coordinator immediately after the game is in order (and for us, it's mandatory for any and all ejections, so it's going to happen anyway.)

I've got travel locks for my bag and padlocks for lockers, so that's how it'll be secured. Our area could be anything from our cars in a parking lot to a fully-stocked dressing room, but the thing is to make sure that we have physical control of the container. I'm not relying on the physical security the site provides (if any.)

[dumbdumb]

3 hours ago, Replacematt said:

A call to your conference coordinator immediately after the game is in order (and for us, it's mandatory for any and all ejections, so it's going to happen anyway.)

I've got travel locks for my bag and padlocks for lockers, so that's how it'll be secured. Our area could be anything from our cars in a parking lot to a fully-stocked dressing room, but the thing is to make sure that we have physical control of the container. I'm not relying on the physical security the site provides (if any.)

ah. the old jason grimsley enters umpire room through ceiling to recover players corked illegal bat caper.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994_Cleveland_Indians_corked_bat_incident

[BLWizzRanger]

13 hours ago, Richvee said:

What do we do with the glove or gear after the game? Just give it back? Also wondering what a “secure area” would be on some fields. 

ahhhhh, just tuck it in your back waistband.

[Richvee]

13 hours ago, Replacematt said:

A call to your conference coordinator immediately after the game is in order (and for us, it's mandatory for any and all ejections, so it's going to happen anyway

Good point

[zoops]

I kind of feel this one isn't really in line with what was presented in the video in the clinic (or the situation from last year's postseason Florida-Clemson game).  I seem to remember them saying on the clinic that a key threshold for ejection is "escalating or inciting" if you are approaching the skirmish from a dugout, etc.  It would seem that merely "approaching the vicinity" is not the key for determining who is ejected.  Anyone find this one a bit off?  IMO if they used this definition in that game last spring they would have had 25 ejections.  Personally, I thought the rule was just fine the way it was and much easier to enforce.  

R3 gets into a rundown between home plate and third base. There is contact between R3 and the third baseman as R3 attempts to slide back into third base. The two players exchange some heated words that develop into a potential altercation. Which of the following team personnel should be ejected for their actions during the potential situation?

Correct answer: Team personnel who leave the dugout, bullpen, or their position on the field to approach the immediate vicinity of the altercation.

[grayhawk]

1 hour ago, zoops said:

I kind of feel this one isn't really in line with what was presented in the video in the clinic (or the situation from last year's postseason Florida-Clemson game).  I seem to remember them saying on the clinic that a key threshold for ejection is "escalating or inciting" if you are approaching the skirmish from a dugout, etc.  It would seem that merely "approaching the vicinity" is not the key for determining who is ejected.  Anyone find this one a bit off?  IMO if they used this definition in that game last spring they would have had 25 ejections.  Personally, I thought the rule was just fine the way it was and much easier to enforce.  

R3 gets into a rundown between home plate and third base. There is contact between R3 and the third baseman as R3 attempts to slide back into third base. The two players exchange some heated words that develop into a potential altercation. Which of the following team personnel should be ejected for their actions during the potential situation?

Correct answer: Team personnel who leave the dugout, bullpen, or their position on the field to approach the immediate vicinity of the altercation.

They changed it from last year to give players more leeway. Last year, the verbiage was that any player leaving the dugout or their position could be ejected. Now, players can leave the dugout or their position, but as long as they don't approach the immediate vicinity of the altercation, then they don't put themselves in jeopardy of being ejected.