Suspended game is resumed

[Guest BigVic]

A game, that was suspended, had a team where a player was missing.

When the game resumes (at a later time), does the missing player get added to the bottom of the lineup?

I would say no, since "exactly" is used in the following. Except the pitchers have to observe days rest.

4.10 ( d) If a game is called before it has become a regulation game, it shall be resumed exactly where it left off.

[Rich Ives]

53 minutes ago, Guest BigVic said:

A game, that was suspended, had a team where a player was missing.

When the game resumes (at a later time), does the missing player get added to the bottom of the lineup?

I would say no, since "exactly" is used in the following. Except the pitchers have to observe days rest.

4.10 ( d) If a game is called before it has become a regulation game, it shall be resumed exactly where it left off.

Yes he may be added.  4.01(d) Note 1:

[Senor Azul]

2018 Little League rule 4.01(d)

NOTE 2: Rostered players who arrive at the game site after a game begins may be inserted in the lineup, if the manager so chooses. This applies even when a suspended game is resumed at a later date.

And the following example can be found in LL rule 4.12.

EXAMPLE: 5-5 tie after seven complete innings, game halted because of darkness. Little Bobby missed the full seven innings because of family obligations. Game is resumed two weeks later and little Bobby is present for the resumption. Can he/she play?

Ruling: An eligible player is any player in uniform whose name appears on the team roster. Yes, he/she may play.

[Rich Ives]

There is at least one instance in MLB  where a player got traded from one team to the other in the interim and played for both teams in the same game.

[urout17]

Here are a few....

https://www.mlb.com/news/players-traded-to-the-other-dugout-c292900478

 

[Mudisfun]

Bottom line... LL wants the kids to play, that is why they are there. If a player was not present at the start of the game but is able to be there for the resumption, then yes, they can play.

[beerguy55]

44 minutes ago, urout17 said:

Here are a few....

https://www.mlb.com/news/players-traded-to-the-other-dugout-c292900478

 

Different discussion.   These are trades that occurred while both teams happened to be in town together for a series.  They weren't traded mid game while playing for one of the teams - and even if they were, they would be treated like a sub out of the one team, and not allowed to play for the other until the next game.   (I don't know if players have ever swapped teams between a double header)

There have been a few cases in MLB where a game in progress was suspended, resumed at a later date, where players in the starting lineup were traded away in the interim.

And I think Rich is right, in one of those cases the player was traded to the other team in the suspended game.

 

[yawetag]

https://www.mlb.com/cut4/cardinals-and-cubs-trade-outfielders-cliff-heathcote-and-max-flack/c-232584078

[yawetag]

At the bottom of that link it states it's one of two times a player played for two different teams on the same day, then detailing the second time:

Mets outfielder Joel Youngblood played four innings of an Aug. 4, 1982, game at Wrigley Field before being traded to the Expos for a player to be named later. He quickly hopped on a plane to Philadelphia, and got to the ballpark in time to pinch-hit in the bottom of the sixth.

[Rich Ives]

1 hour ago, Mudisfun said:

Bottom line... LL wants the kids to play, that is why they are there. If a player was not present at the start of the game but is able to be there for the resumption, then yes, they can play.

Same rule OBR.   Not just a LL thing.

[beerguy55]

1 hour ago, yawetag said:

At the bottom of that link it states it's one of two times a player played for two different teams on the same day, then detailing the second time:

Mets outfielder Joel Youngblood played four innings of an Aug. 4, 1982, game at Wrigley Field before being traded to the Expos for a player to be named later. He quickly hopped on a plane to Philadelphia, and got to the ballpark in time to pinch-hit in the bottom of the sixth.

I was gonna mention that before.  I remember watching that Expos game on TV.

 

Also - if you click the pinch-hit link you will see the game box score.   The "game duration" jumped out at me - different times.

 

Wednesday, August 4, 1982

Start Time: 7:41 p.m. Local

Attendance: 36,814

Venue: Veterans Stadium

Game Duration: 2:14

[Lou B]

The original post asks about adding the player to the bottom of the line-up which indicates this is Continuous Batting Order (CBO).

If LL, one thing that needs to be stated is if the player is added/inserted in the game then he/she must meet MPR.  So depending on what inning the game was suspended/resumed that might be a problem.

[stevis]

5 hours ago, Lou B said:

The original post asks about adding the player to the bottom of the line-up which indicates this is Continuous Batting Order (CBO).

If LL, one thing that needs to be stated is if the player is added/inserted in the game then he/she must meet MPR.  So depending on when the game was suspended/resumed that might be a problem.

Yeah, but leagues have some options on that.  I wouldn't supsend a coach for trying to get the kid more playing time.  I might insist on "at the next game, make up the missing MPR, plus the next game's MPR, before they can be subbed out"

If it is a CBO question, treat them like a late arrival.  Which, in effect, they are.  Two weeks late maybe, but it goes that way sometimes.

[Lou B]

Leagues do not have an Option on MPR violations, the Mandatory Player and Manager Penalties are specified.  The only exception is that for a shortened game the BOD "may" waive the Manager Penalty.

So, if a manager puts a late arriving players into the game "to get some playing time" and the player does not get his/her MPR, it's a violation and the MPR Penalties apply.  Personally I don't agree with it and have had several discussions with Williamsport about it but it is the rule (one of the dumbest rules in my opinion).