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Same. We got together and determined it was legal.

Hmm....so if one of these players rolls a ball to the other, gets by him, hits the fence post, rolls into the field of play just as a batted ball is hit in that direction, you don't think that could be a safety concern or now there's two balls in play? I know the first thing you'll say is that could happen with a pitcher warming up as well. Sure it could, but the pitcher is using that area as designed, the others are not. There are plenty of other places to loosen up at this facility. Would you permit a player to be swinging a bat outside the dugout loosening up because he's gonna be in the game, of course not. I'm using the rules to prevent a bigger problem.

We have them use both at all schools in our county.

The ground rule at this school is designated live ball all the way to the fence surrounding the field, same on both sides.

Working the bases for a NFHS varsity game last night. Attached, I circled where the bullpens of both teams are located. Not shown too well, but just behind where the catcher would be squatting to warm up a relief pitcher, is a chain link fence that stands about 6-7' tall and about 8' wide, equally constructed for both teams. At this particular school, even when relief pitchers are warming up, teams place a protective player with helmet and glove for the pitchers safety, even though the pitcher is facing the field. Last night, two players (not pitcher/catcher) from the home team (3B side) were standing in the area behind the fence rolling ground balls to each other and just playing catch during the live game. As soon as I noticed this I called time and told the HC to have his players get back in the dugout. Of course he wants to know why and I told him "Coach XXXX, this is a HS game and players are not allowed to be out of the dugout during a live ball. "Where are the supposed to warm up? Our pitchers warm up there! That doesn't make sense. I can put a safety player there" He grumbled a little more but had his players return to the dugout. The rule does state that a coach/player, etc., can't leave the dugout for an unauthorized purpose during a live ball. No other issues after that. I've worked many games at this school and have never seen this before. I can't imagine in all this time this hasn't happened before. The same HC has been there for years. I'm just asking what does everyone think? Thanks for your help.

I finished but haven't submitted yet and just going over a few. I swear I over think this stuff. The questions states U1 is positioned a steps beyond the INITIAL position of F3. Could that mean when the ball was hit F3 repositioned himself in front of U1? I found 6-1-C and 6-1-H. Any help is appreciated.

I'm about 3/4 done and came across two questions, back to back, that are almost exactly the same except for answer "C" in both. I found the rule in the book, Appendix F, 11-11. Is the difference in there just for confusion?? I'm I correct in assuming the answer is "D" for both questions? Thanks for any help.

First off, I've never been to a professional umpire camp. With that said, I'm not a professional nor do I claim to be. The highest level I work is DII. Are they teaching a lower setup position for calling pitches? The last three umpires in the WS have had their eyes almost at the same height as the catcher more so than not. If I did that, I'd get reamed by my organization (and maybe a few head coaches). I'd just like to know. Thank you.

"Middle school game".....'nuff said. 100% dumb luck.

And if I may on a personal note, as far as the base umpire goes, I was taught if a player(s) calls time and has a meeting on the mound, you can stand away from the mound at the infield grass edge depending on if you were in B or C to start. If a coach or manager has a visit, you go to the outfield grass edge of B or C. The latter being two reasons....one, he can't bit** to you about a call you might have made on the bases or two, he can't bit** to you about your partners zone. It's your partners game to manage so let him manage it. You might help him out with substitutions, player changes, etc, but it's his game. The same respect will be shown to you when it's your turn as UIC.

When I see umpires do this it drives me nuts. Now, I am talking about players say 15 and up so they should have some skills. I want to keep the ball live as much as possible, plus it puts the offense at a disadvantage. Hell, the pitcher is standing on the mound with the ball and the catcher is in front of the plate, just call your signals. Sorry....

And you'll have multiple ejections for sure.

I was hoping that was the reason. Coming from Illinois that's pretty much how it was there too. I remember that "rating" system that was mentioned earlier and it was hs. Living here in Florida, I guess the way we're doing it in our area isn't that bad considering. We really do make an effort to get new guys experience with hirer level games and to advance in the playoffs, which we're in right now.

Richvee, I'm not trying to be funny or antagonistic but I'm not sure what that means?

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