MLB Ejection 074 - Mark Carlson (1; Robin Ventura)

[Lindsay]

HP Umpire Mark Carlson ejected White Sox Manager Robin Ventura for arguing a ball four call in the top of the 7th inning of the Tigers-White Sox game. With two out and none on, Tigers batter Cameron Maybin took a 3-0 fastball from White Sox pitcher Dan Jennings for a called fourth ball. Replays...

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[stkjock]

the description of the situ is off on your site:

 

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HP Umpire Mark Carlson ejected White Sox Manager Robin Ventura for arguing a ball four call in the top of the 7th inning of the Tigers-White Sox game. With two out and none on, Tigers batter Cameron Maybin took a 3-0 fastball from White Sox pitcher Dan Jennings for a called fourth ball.

it was two out and one on, It was a called ball 3, count was 2-2, Migi was up

[Thunderheads]

Yes, the description was Maybin's at bat ...this pitch wasn't "off the plate" .......

@maven  can you pull Cabrera's Brooks Chart like you always do ?!?  

[maven]

As requested. The view is the umpire's perspective, and Ventura was ejected after arguing pitch #5 I believe.

[grayhawk]

Maybe they should have gotten 2 strikeouts in that at-bat.

[Thunderheads]

1 minute ago, grayhawk said:

Maybe they should have gotten 2 strikeouts in that at-bat.

I don't like to say much about the guys in the Show, because THEY are the BEST, hands down, and I am just a high-school umpiring hack, however ......I think Carlson has had better consistent days behind the plate.   I'm sure if you look at his night (entire chart) ...you'll see many marks in the exact same area called both balls and strikes......

It's just a part of umpiring ....

[maven]

2 minutes ago, grayhawk said:

Maybe they should have gotten 2 strikeouts in that at-bat.

If you watch pitch #5, you can see how Carlson got fooled. Wicked E-W movement on that ball, that starts way off the plate. Focused on the E-W, he might have lost N-S.

That would be my excuse anyway.

Here's Carlson's chart for the night. Not too shabby. He's stingy in the lower right quadrant.

 

[grayhawk]

5 minutes ago, Thunderheads said:

I don't like to say much about the guys in the Show, because THEY are the BEST, hands down, and I am just a high-school umpiring hack, however ......I think Carlson has had better consistent days behind the plate.   I'm sure if you look at his night (entire chart) ...you'll see many marks in the exact same area called both balls and strikes......

It's just a part of umpiring ....

I don't know if Carlson is known as a hitter's umpire, but it sure seems like it from his zone from last night.  Upwards of 15 strikes that were called balls.  I know these graphs don't match the actual data perfectly, but this would indicate that he needs to open it up a little.

http://www.brooksbaseball.net/pfxVB/zoneTrack.php?month=6&day=13&year=2016&game=gid_2016_06_13_detmlb_chamlb_1/&prevDate=0613

 

[Jimurray]

2 hours ago, grayhawk said:

I don't know if Carlson is known as a hitter's umpire, but it sure seems like it from his zone from last night.  Upwards of 15 strikes that were called balls.  I know these graphs don't match the actual data perfectly, but this would indicate that he needs to open it up a little.

http://www.brooksbaseball.net/pfxVB/zoneTrack.php?month=6&day=13&year=2016&game=gid_2016_06_13_detmlb_chamlb_1/&prevDate=0613

 

He was testing next year's strike zone.

[Mudder]

separated at birth....Mark Carlson and Ray Liotta

[maven]

I don't think you'd say that if he removed his cap. Ray's got 15 years on Mark, and it's showing.

 

[stkjock]

The years have not been kind to Ray

[maven]

That photo of him is from a site detailing the work he has had done.

Sorry for the hijack.

[dumbdumb]

Stats

Carlson et al.     by ERA

 

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/sortable/index.php?cid=1921185

[Stk004]

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