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Great thanks So going back to my original post, based on those MLBUM interp's Ex 1 would not be runner interference, because the runner did not contact the fielder after the fielder touched the ball but Ex 2 would be runner interference because the runner did contact the fielder after the fielder touched the ball as the fielder was still considered in the act of fielding the ball after he touched because was still in the fielder's immediate reach. Is this correct, or are both examples still Runner Interference?

I would like them if I can see them, got a notification that the original didn't post, I don't see the responses, so I reposted it, perhaps you can fill me me on the responses

Two situations, thoughts if one, or both, or neither are runner interference, and cite rule references, case play, etc. OBR 1. R2, hard hit ground ball to SS, R2 is headed to 3B, ball bounces off of fielder's glove and goes to his right and just in front of him by a foot or 2 max, just as the runner is running by him, fielder reaches over to pick up the ball with his bard hand, and his hand gets tangled up in the runner's legs as the runner is going by, causing a delay in the fielder picking up the ball, he throws to 1B, not it time to get the batter/runner, R2 gets to 3B safely. 2. R2, hard hit ground ball to SS, R2 is headed to 3B, ball bounces off of fielder's glove and goes to his right and just in front of him by a foot or 2 max, just as the runner is running by him, fielder reaches over to pick up the ball, and the runner collides with fielder, causing the fielder to have no play on the BR at 1B, and R2 gets to 3B safely. There was nothing deliberate on the action of the runner, he was just running in his base path to 3B.

OBR, R2, hard hit ball to SS, bounces off fielders glove and to his right a foot or two, just as runner is running by to 3B, SS has to reach to his right to pick up the ball and his hand gets tangled up in the runners legs as he's trying to pick up the ball, so he is late in picking it up and has no play at 1B RI or not? and cite the rule reference

I was recently advised that any fencing on a diamond that is non vertical, such as the the angled in part of the top of the fence behind the backstop that some diamonds have, or the old "clamshell" diamonds, that have the horizontal fencing over top of the plate area, is out of play on thrown balls. For example on a play at the plate a throw comes in, bounces off the catcher, and goes straight up and touches any non vertical fencing, its out of play, you'd kill it and award bases. Is this correct, for OBR only? If so where is it found in the rulebook, as I don't see it

OBR, can a team make a checked swing appeal after a mound visit? On the previous pitch of course, and assuming there have been no intervening plays, given that a mound visit is not a play

OBR, bases loaded, 1 out, catcher IF is called when the batter hits a weak grounder to the infield, who throw home to get R3 on the force out, all other runners, incl BR, advance one base All runners, incl BR, did not get at least 1 base. 1. Do you accept the play or enforce CI? 2.Does the offensive coach have an option, if so what is it? 3. Do you only present the option if the coach asks you for the option, or do you present him the option whether he asks or not?

High School ball, OBR, RH batter, pitch comes in from a RHP, high and very tight, I'm PU and notice the ball is coming in directly at the head/shoulder area of the BR, instead of backing up or squatting down to avoid being hit the BR bends at the waist with his head toward the plate, pitch hits him in the helmet (his head was not in the strike zone at contact) Is it a HPB, do you give him 1B, or rule it a ball, as he intentionally got hit?

I do primarily OBR games, not including a new pitcher coming in due to an injury, how many warm up pitches are now allowed? I see the standard 8 pitch max limit has disappeared from the OBR rulebook in 2018, and there is no limit in the current rules, probably due to the pace of play and the time restrictions introduced since 2018, so question is, do you guys still enforce the 8 pitch max rule in your OBR games?

Whatever happened to "as long as he's consistent we don't care what he calls" ? I hate when coaches and players say this because its simply not true, and this post shows that. If you call a very tight zone, or very generous" for the the level you're doing, but do it for the same for both teams, you're still gonna have a lot of unhappy participants.

I have bases, R1, none out, batter hits a clear line drive base hit to left field, definite single, possible double. R1 goes to 3B, I don't hear/see my partner signalling he's got R1 coming into 3B, so I hustle over there, throw comes into 3B from F7, easily safe. I then hear yelling and screaming coming from the plate, I turn and the batter who just hit the line drive is sprawled out on the ground at the plate rolling around and screaming in pain (later found out he blew his knee cap on his swing). The defence has not thrown to 1B to get the batter out, neither my partner or I have called time to this point, but the play on the field has completely stopped, then coaches come on the field to tend to the injured batter, my partner finally puts his arms up to signal time. What do we do with the injured batter...call him out, put him on 1B?

Leg kick or not, its still IF as its not a Bona Fide slide because R1 didn't reach the base.

I would think 2 and 3 is 1 condition, in other words the illegal act is the hindrance of F2's play? How are these 2 separate conditions?

At that age, not sure I'd toss just for that comment, but stern warning for sure. There was no personal insult, "you" or "you're", not that that's the only reason to toss, just saying. Did you toss simply because of the F bomb, or also because of how loud it was? If so, if he had said "no damn way" instead would you still have tossed him?

In 2 man, as base ump, with 2 out I've always started in B with R3 or R2/R3 (likely play at 1b on infield ground ball), with less than 2 out I start in C under both scenarios, but I noticed the 2018 NCAA manual shows U1 in C under both scenarios, regardless of the outs. Can you discuss the starting point of U1 in 2 man mechanics, with R2 or R2/R3 for Milb, NCAA , etc, and if # of outs changes it.

Agree with the no IFF call, its a "flare", as you say in between, judgement call for sure. But don't agree with the off the baseline call, at least from the angle in the clip, there's not even a step and a reach by the fielder, just a reach, thats < than 3'

How do either of these work better than a flex belt?

One of my masks is a Diamond, how do I know if these graphite colored pads will fit it?

Shouldn't R1 and R2 be returned to their bases on the batter IF?

Where did you get the graphite colored foam pads?

That should of read less than 2 out

OBB, I'm PU, R2 & R3, 2 out batter hits a trouble fly ball to left, F7 is playing deep, but is charging in hard and makes a circus catch. R3 tags and scores and R2 tags and advances to 3B. Defense wants to appeal R3 left early, F1 steps off rubber and throws to 3B, but overthrows F5, but ball remains in play, runner at 3B comes home, F5 retrieves errant throw and throws home, runner is easily safe. F2 then throws to F5 to again try to appeal the original R3 leaving early. I say they've lost their right to appeal because a play has happened (throwing home to get the runner after the errant thrown on the original appeal play). Defensive coach accepts this, but then says they screwed up, they should have appealed R2 leaving early, not R3, I did not allow that appeal either for the same reason as above. Questions: Was I correct in not allowing the 2nd appeal attempt on the original R3 because of the ensuing play trying to put the runner out at home after the errant throw? Was I correct in not allowing the appeal attempt on R2, or did they have the right to appeal? On the errant throw to 3B on the appeal attempt, if F5 had just gone over to pick up the ball and just step on 3B, instead of throwing home to try and get the runner, would that appeal attempt have been allowed, I think yes as no play has happened to cause them to lose their right to appeal?

Until, and if, MLB comes up with some kind of basic guidelines as to what does and does not constitute an offer, vs being purely based on judgement, these arguments will always happen.

I guess I forgot my "tongue in cheek" emoji As a BU, the only time a PU came to me on a play at the plate was when he had a violent sneeze just as the tag was being applied. He made no call and immediately called me in, told me what happened, and asked "please tell me you got a good look at that", I said ya I did, he was easily out.

No such thing as a "bad call", you mean a call a coach does not agree with. Unless its something like a ball squirting loose possibly out of the umps view, no way as a PU I can envision a play where I would go to my BU on a play at the plate.