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What do you guys think of the cops on the field for a pushing match?

I think with the number of people around, fighting, in a situation like that it could be a deadly force situation. If I'm a cop, I don't go anywhere near that mess.

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I threw this together in case folks want to work through the video questions w/o being in Arbiter.

 

Enjoy.

 

 

Thanks.

 

here's what I get (noting that the answers might be in a different order on different tests):

 

1.  C -- Legal catch. The ball is dead. Any base runner is advanced one base from the time of the pitch.

 

2.  B -- This is interference. Although the pitcher had to chase after the ball after the deflection, when he is contacted by the BR, he is in the act of fielding a batted ball.

 

3.  C -- Since the catcher stepped in front of home plate without the ball, this is catcher's interference. The pitcher is charged with a balk, the batter is awarded first, R2 is advanced to third. R3 scores.

 

4.  B -- The play is not legal. Time should be called at the point the rosin bag is placed in the pitcher's glove; thereby, stopping play. The pitcher shall be warned and if done again, he will be ejected. This deception should not be allowed in NCAA baseball.

 

5.  B -- Batter interference. The ball is dead as soon as the initial throw fails to retire the runner. The batter is declared out and R1 is returned to first.

 

6.  C -- The batter-runner is out for interference.

 

7.  A -- This is a HBP situation, the batter remains at the plate with a ball added to the count.

 

8.  A -- If ruled an intentionally dropped fly ball, the ball is immediately dead, the batter is out. R1 and R2 remain at their TOP bases. If the umpire ruled an infield fly, the batter is out and the ball remains "live" on the infield fly rule. R1 and R2 could advance at their own peril.

 

9.  B -- A coach shall be ejected for continuing to argue a call on a half-swing after he has been warned. Or, if a coach leaves the dugout or his position, he may be ejected without warning.

 

10.  D -- Both B & C answers are correct.

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Regarding #3, that's your test answer. What would your real world answer be?

I'd hope it would be the same -- evenif my initial reaction was to call the play, I'd hope I'd recognize the rule issue within a couple of seconds and make the awards.

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I threw this together in case folks want to work through the video questions w/o being in Arbiter.

 

Enjoy.

 

 

Thanks.

 

here's what I get (noting that the answers might be in a different order on different tests):

 

1.  C -- Legal catch. The ball is dead. Any base runner is advanced one base from the time of the pitch.

 

2.  B -- This is interference. Although the pitcher had to chase after the ball after the deflection, when he is contacted by the BR, he is in the act of fielding a batted ball.

 

3.  C -- Since the catcher stepped in front of home plate without the ball, this is catcher's interference. The pitcher is charged with a balk, the batter is awarded first, R2 is advanced to third. R3 scores.

 

4.  B -- The play is not legal. Time should be called at the point the rosin bag is placed in the pitcher's glove; thereby, stopping play. The pitcher shall be warned and if done again, he will be ejected. This deception should not be allowed in NCAA baseball.

 

5.  B -- Batter interference. The ball is dead as soon as the initial throw fails to retire the runner. The batter is declared out and R1 is returned to first.

 

6.  C -- The batter-runner is out for interference.

 

7.  A -- This is a HBP situation, the batter remains at the plate with a ball added to the count.

 

8.  A -- If ruled an intentionally dropped fly ball, the ball is immediately dead, the batter is out. R1 and R2 remain at their TOP bases. If the umpire ruled an infield fly, the batter is out and the ball remains "live" on the infield fly rule. R1 and R2 could advance at their own peril.

 

9.  B -- A coach shall be ejected for continuing to argue a call on a half-swing after he has been warned. Or, if a coach leaves the dugout or his position, he may be ejected without warning.

 

10.  D -- Both B & C answers are correct.

 

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I see Haid quoted my answers -- but I don't see any comment.  Are you agreeing my answers are correct?

He must be using an antique IPad. I have one and things diasappear. But, let's say he was commenting on question 3. I also would hope that I recognize the rule violation after erroneously calling safe. I have argued that it should be called in about two or three threads here with benefit of being prepared for the video. Others have argued that if the batter doesn't attempt or actually clock the catcher that he hasn't been hindered by the catcher. Others have used a commen sense and fair play approach. You could make a point that in this video the batter had a flinch of a swing before deciding not to clock the catcher and in the previous threads the batter bailed or did not swing. Does NCAA want this called regardless of the swing attempt? In all of the sits I am aware of R3 is safe. I wonder what the onfield umpires would rule if an out happened.

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NCAA Video bulletin #1

 

 

What a terrible video bulletin. That could have been sent in an email memo. Surely they have a couple of plays on video so far this year, don't they? If not, use plays from previous years go reinforce things they want to discuss so far this year. Why put out a video that is all audio and text?

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I threw this together in case folks want to work through the video questions w/o being in Arbiter.

 

Enjoy.

 

Guys,

I hate to bring this up again, ......but number 2 = Interference, ....I get that. 

However, ...is that the call for FED?

 

I could have swore we discussed this but dummy here can't find it :smachhead:

 

SORRY!  But, thanks in advance.........

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This is why I don't really like the "secret signal" business.  

 

If you have something that would be considered a crew saver type of call, come in and tell me unsolicited.  Quit messing around w/ the secret signal business.  

 

I don't know if that's what this BU was doing, but if he was, don't leave him hanging out there to dry.  Get in there and save the crew.

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Get in there and save the crew and get the call right. Ball on the ground, you walk toward your partner telling him, "I got the ball on the ground...Dave".

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Get in there and save the crew and get the call right. Ball on the ground, you walk toward your partner telling him, "I got the ball on the ground...Dave".

Actually you should not do it like that.. Call time and walk in to your partner and talk with him ( just you 2-3-4) umpires alone talking, then fix the problem.

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Get in there and save the crew and get the call right. Ball on the ground, you walk toward your partner telling him, "I got the ball on the ground...Dave".

Actually you should not do it like that.. Call time and walk in to your partner and talk with him ( just you 2-3-4) umpires alone talking, then fix the problem.

 

 

Agree. Additional info is for the calling umpire to consider in private. That umpire then decides whether to change the call, and announces the ruling (either way) after considering the additional info.

 

If you go in with guns blazing, you're taking the call away from your partner, which is not only rude, it's improper mechanics and against the rules.

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RE:  Video #3.

 

Seems a bit silly that we need to notify the team of a coach's suspension before the ball is put back into play (nor am I finding that in the rule book).  That can't wait until after the game?  Shouldn't that be something that you communicate to their administration who then communicates to their coach?  Seems some of these NCAA procedures are so picky that all they do is leave loopholes to blame umpires for not following the letter of the law.  

 

Edit:  I did find on p. 21 of the CCA manual that suspensions must be announced immediately.  Still don't really understand why however.  

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Pretty sure that at the NCAA meetings, they said you should identify that there is a suspension immediately (For being bumped for example), then you can let them know the number of games before you leave the field when the game is over. Now they want the number of games to be communicated before the next pitch I guess. 

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Pretty sure that at the NCAA meetings, they said you should identify that there is a suspension immediately (For being bumped for example), then you can let them know the number of games before you leave the field when the game is over. Now they want the number of games to be communicated before the next pitch I guess. 

​Yes, that is what I remember hearing too.  Tell them that there's a suspension, clarify it after if needed.

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