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BRUMP

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12u game. Partner calls a kid safe at the plate. HC and partner go at it for a little bit then partner says coach that's enough. You need to go back to your dugout now. HC starts walking back to dugout and partner turns and walks towards TD for more baseballs. As partner is getting baseballs. HC yells out this is fukin bullSH*#. I see if y partner heard it nope so I run the guy. He gets in my face tells me to grow up. I tell him coach you need to leave, he then says calm your 7yr old tits. Your a 7yr old you shouldn't have been out here in the first place. Then he finally leaves. This was a doubleheader so in between games the TD says he's allowed to coach in game two despite the rule saying he could not. I was irate with the TD but I kept it civil. Game 2 nothing eventful happened. But the league running this tournament is the same LL I work pro bono for during the summer all

Star season, so I told them as I left I was no longer working for them for free.

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maven
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Toss him at the game 2 plate meeting, and enjoy!

BRUMP
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12u game. Partner calls a kid safe at the plate. HC and partner go at it for a little bit then partner says coach that's enough. You need to go back to your dugout now. HC starts walking back to dugou

johnnyg08
johnnyg08

No doubt….about it.  There is a cost involved…more than anybody who wants you to donate your time will ever consider or admit.  

johnnyg08

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I love how they change their rules.  

 

Conduct by that coach in any level besides MLB is totally inappropriate and even at that level I'd say it's inappropriate.  Unreal.  I wouldn't work for them any longer for free either.

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TStokes97

TStokes97

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You work for free? I only do that for a scrimages and 8U to get in a grove before my 10U and 12U games start. I still despise leagues that think umps are a free thing, we cost money we have expences inherant to the job someday Little Leagues umpire well is gonna dry up

johnnyg08

johnnyg08

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You work for free? I only do that for a scrimages and 8U to get in a grove before my 10U and 12U games start. I still despise leagues that think umps are a free thing, we cost money we have expences inherant to the job someday Little Leagues umpire well is gonna dry up

 

A friend told me this and it makes perfect sense…every time I step on to the field, I pay a tax.  Not just to the government, but possibly to my job, my wife, my daughter, my yard, my body, etc.  For that reason, I will RARELY work for free.  In fact in 16 years, I've done it one time.  I don't see another one coming up any time soon.

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Jocko

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@johnnyg08 - it costs me $ to umpire. Gas, oil and wear/tear on my vehicle, cleaning supplies, the electricity to run my washing machine, sunscreen, shoe polish, etc. It costs me becase I could either be working paid games or OT at work. So, I figure every game I work for free, I'm DONATING $50 to that organization. If LL called you on the phone and solicited $500, would you write them a check? No way in hades I would. So why would I give them my time and talents and spend $ in the giving? No fkn WAY!

I did do a fundraiser tourney for victims of the tornadoes that ripped through Alabama. They paid me $25 @ game, which I donated back to the kitty. But I got my charitable donation receipt and turned in my full game fee amount.

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grayhawk

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For the most part, LL doesn't expect folks like those who frequent this site to umpire their games for free. The volunteers are expected to be the parents of the kids who play in that league.

Sure, there are people out there (and some on this site) that are more serious about umpiring who still volunteer in LL, and LL loves to have them. These people donate their time because they like the program and believe in it.

Do you want a fee when you volunteer to do beach or park cleanup, work at a soup kitchen, or do habitat for humanity?

BigUmpire

BigUmpire

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"The volunteers are expected to be the parents of the kids who play in that league"

Says a lot there.

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TStokes97

TStokes97

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I'm just saying I don't do it for free because it costs me money, other than a few 8U games and scrimiges before the season, which are purely to get back in a grove before the paid games, I agree with all of you it makes no sense to work free, which is why i generally will not again outside of those i do to prepare and practice

Dannytheman

Dannytheman

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My ears were burning!!

 

First off on the ejection. No way that HC comes into play following game. TD can't make up the rules. (Plate meeting, gone? I like that)

2ndly, I have been very lucky that I make a great living. That has allowed me to work for free and feel like I am giving back.

I never critisize anyone working for the $$ as long as they earn it. When a league needs to spend 50% of it's money on Umpires instead of money on the program, decisions need to be made.

I have an incredible love of the game, and I have an incredible love of Little League baseball and what it teaches.(If done right)

 

When I retire, I promise that I will join an umpire association that pays me, to help offset my 401K and SS$.

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TStokes97

TStokes97

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My ears were burning!!

First off on the ejection. No way that HC comes into play following game. TD can't make up the rules. (Plate meeting, gone? I like that)

2ndly, I have been very lucky that I make a great living. That has allowed me to work for free and feel like I am giving back.

I never critisize anyone working for the $$ as long as they earn it. When a league needs to spend 50% of it's money on Umpires instead of money on the program, decisions need to be made.

I have an incredible love of the game, and I have an incredible love of Little League baseball and what it teaches.(If done right)

When I retire, I promise that I will join an umpire association that pays me, to help offset my 401K and SS$.

If you have a high paying job thats one thing but for me umping is my job, I can't afford to give it away, maybe after school and college Ill volunteer but now its the only way to cover gear costs
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Majordave

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I vote bait the offending coach at plate meeting. Issue a warning that he is not to speak or walk on the field or be out of the dugout wirhout prior permission. When he whines or protests or violates the warning he is gone. Doubtful he'd make it past the first inning with me. Unless he is on his best behavior. Which is all I really want.

johnnyg08

johnnyg08

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2ndly, I have been very lucky that I make a great living. That has allowed me to work for free and feel like I am giving back.

 

 

 

Sure and to each his own on how he/she chooses to spend his/her time.  For me, yeah, I could work for free…but it's a tax on my family time, yard work, etc...

 

I'm certainly not judging how one chooses to use his/her free time for volunteer work, for a side job, to take your kid to the park, etc...

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basejester

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Little Leagues in many communities couldn't exist without volunteer umpires.  Try these numbers on for size.

 

12 kids on a team.  12 recreational games per year.  So, in effect, each kid has to pay for one game.  Let's be wildly optimistic and assume that the all parents can pay a $130 registration fee.  If we pay two umpires $50 for this game, we've now consumed $100 of that $130.  $25 for a uniform.  $5 for baseballs.  Great, we've covered it.  Except for:

 

  1. insurance
  2. catchers' gear
  3. batters' helmets
  4. electricity
  5. fence repair
  6. gas to put in the mowers
  7. mowers to put around the gas
  8. awards
  9. drying agents
  10. aeration
  11. infield mix
  12. fertilizer
  13. pesticides
  14. flags
  15. restroom maintenance
  16. trash disposal
  17. advertizing
  18. dugout repair
  19. legal defense

 

Granted, sponsors help.  But most local leagues owe their existence to volunteer umpires.

 

No hate on those that choose not to.    

TStokes97

TStokes97

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Little Leagues in many communities couldn't exist without volunteer umpires. Try these numbers on for size.

12 kids on a team. 12 recreational games per year. So, in effect, each kid has to pay for one game. Let's be wildly optimistic and assume that the all parents can pay a $130 registration fee. If we pay two umpires $50 for this game, we've now consumed $100 of that $130. $25 for a uniform. $5 for baseballs. Great, we've covered it. Except for:

  • insurance
  • catchers' gear
  • batters' helmets
  • electricity
  • fence repair
  • gas to put in the mowers
  • mowers to put around the gas
  • awards
  • drying agents
  • aeration
  • infield mix
  • fertilizer
  • pesticides
  • flags
  • restroom maintenance
  • trash disposal
  • advertizing
  • dugout repair
  • legal defense
Granted, sponsors help. But most local leagues owe their existence to volunteer umpires.

No hate on those that choose not to.

Other leagues get sponsors, fundraisers, donations, oh and many charge $200 not $130 many leagues(at least mine) have older gear or it is donated to them, paid umps would'nt kill them, but if they can find free bee's good for them but there are not enough to go around
DVA7130

DVA7130

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Little Leagues in many communities couldn't exist without volunteer umpires.  Try these numbers on for size.

 

12 kids on a team.  12 recreational games per year.  So, in effect, each kid has to pay for one game.  Let's be wildly optimistic and assume that the all parents can pay a $130 registration fee.  If we pay two umpires $50 for this game, we've now consumed $100 of that $130.  $25 for a uniform.  $5 for baseballs.  Great, we've covered it.  Except for:

  • insurance
  • catchers' gear
  • batters' helmets
  • electricity
  • fence repair
  • gas to put in the mowers
  • mowers to put around the gas
  • awards
  • drying agents
  • aeration
  • infield mix
  • fertilizer
  • pesticides
  • flags
  • restroom maintenance
  • trash disposal
  • advertizing
  • dugout repair
  • legal defense
Granted, sponsors help.  But most local leagues owe their existence to volunteer umpires.

 

No hate on those that choose not to.

Around here at that level, umpires are getting paid $30 per game.

bam

bam

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Anyone ever notice that in the LLs that rely on unpaid umpires, about .001% of league board members (the ones who make the rules about keeping umpires unpaid) are volunteer umpires? It's not a coincidence.

Or rocket science.

LL can kiss my a$$. They're almost as credible as the NCAA. Almost.

MRG9999

MRG9999

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If I was umpiring that game, I would have requested that coach not be on the field, bench, or in the park.  If not, I would have walked off the field and talked to my partner as well to follow.  Coaches like that are not good for the kids, they are just trying to relive their playing days.    

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TStokes97

TStokes97

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Little Leagues in many communities couldn't exist without volunteer umpires. Try these numbers on for size.

12 kids on a team. 12 recreational games per year. So, in effect, each kid has to pay for one game. Let's be wildly optimistic and assume that the all parents can pay a $130 registration fee. If we pay two umpires $50 for this game, we've now consumed $100 of that $130. $25 for a uniform. $5 for baseballs. Great, we've covered it. Except for:

  • insurance
  • catchers' gear
  • batters' helmets
  • electricity
  • fence repair
  • gas to put in the mowers
  • mowers to put around the gas
  • awards
  • drying agents
  • aeration
  • infield mix
  • fertilizer
  • pesticides
  • flags
  • restroom maintenance
  • trash disposal
  • advertizing
  • dugout repair
  • legal defense

Granted, sponsors help. But most local leagues owe their existence to volunteer umpires.

No hate on those that choose not to.

Umpire expense list: Water, Gear, Travel, Uniform, Back up Gear, Post-Game Pizza, Post Game Advil, Post Game Ice, Post Game Soda or Beer, Post Game Italian Ice, Megaphone to yell at neighbors, Money for Lowes to one-up neighbor at home addition projects, umpires have costs too
Jocko

Jocko

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Little Leagues in many communities couldn't exist without volunteer umpires.  Try these numbers on for size.

 

12 kids on a team.  12 recreational games per year.  So, in effect, each kid has to pay for one game.  Let's be wildly optimistic and assume that the all parents can pay a $130 registration fee.  If we pay two umpires $50 for this game, we've now consumed $100 of that $130.  $25 for a uniform.  $5 for baseballs.  Great, we've covered it.  Except for:

 

  • insurance
  • catchers' gear
  • batters' helmets
  • electricity
  • fence repair
  • gas to put in the mowers
  • mowers to put around the gas
  • awards
  • drying agents
  • aeration
  • infield mix
  • fertilizer
  • pesticides
  • flags
  • restroom maintenance
  • trash disposal
  • advertizing
  • dugout repair
  • legal defense
 

Granted, sponsors help.  But most local leagues owe their existence to volunteer umpires.

 

No hate on those that choose not to.

Concessions is where most parks get the $ to pay umpires. It costs about $.04 for that $3.00 fountain drink. $.12 for that $4 hot dog. Etc etc etc. The markup on food is astronomical. And the profit margins are enormous.

you list all the reasons umpires cant be paid a pittance of what LL Execs are paid. Just saying.

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