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Jocko
Jocko

Here is the newer version. Mine was probably 18 + years old http://www.ump-attire.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=UC5-BC&Category_Code=ALL_STAR_UMPIRE&Product_Count=10

MadMax
MadMax

I don't use one at all. None. Nil. Zip. Zero.   I was a catcher for 16 years. Everything I did was with the right hand, because what's on the left hand? So yeah, I was one of "those guys" that had t

umpstu
umpstu

And any time that the ball becomes dead.

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slo8140

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Gerry Davis Metal 3/2/2. Love the way it feels in my hand. Like the low profile.

Jocko

Jocko

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What's a clicker? ;)

Probably about 12ounces. Very substantial

KLAH316

KLAH316

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I use one with BALL STRIKE in that order....

 

My "Trigger Finger" works the STRIKE wheel.....  :FIRE:

BigUmpire

BigUmpire

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You will never go back to a traditional after this one.

 

http://www.umpire.org/store/product_info.php?cPath=38_50_51&products_id=149

 

 

jindlg.jpg

 

New Japanese Indicator, exclusive to the ABUA! After an overwhelming interest in the Japanese Plate Brushes, our sister organization in Japan has created another creative and very useful umpire tool. With a new palm-fitting design, and easy to read numbers with notches in the dial, makes it easy to use and know when the indicator is clear of any count. 

afaber12

afaber12

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You will never go back to a traditional after this one.

 

http://www.umpire.org/store/product_info.php?cPath=38_50_51&products_id=149

 

New Japanese Indicator, exclusive to the ABUA! After an overwhelming interest in the Japanese Plate Brushes, our sister organization in Japan has created another creative and very useful umpire tool. With a new palm-fitting design, and easy to read numbers with notches in the dial, makes it easy to use and know when the indicator is clear of any count. 

 

Unless I'm not fully awake this morning, that's to fit the right hand... right?

 

I use a 4-dial, ball-first indicator with fluro dials.

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I had a similar one that was strike-first with white dials. I'm not sure if it was because of the indicator, or just that I was nervous in my first few games and so more easily prey to confusion, but there were times using the other indicator that I'd have to have a couple of go's at signalling the count correctly, either getting the count itself right but signalled balls with the right hand and strikes with the left, or flipping the count back-to-front. I was always more confident on 1-1 and 2-2 counts.

 

Since switching to this one, I haven't had that problem.

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Jimurray

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You will never go back to a traditional after this one.

 

http://www.umpire.org/store/product_info.php?cPath=38_50_51&products_id=149

 

 

jindlg.jpg

 

New Japanese Indicator, exclusive to the ABUA! After an overwhelming interest in the Japanese Plate Brushes, our sister organization in Japan has created another creative and very useful umpire tool. With a new palm-fitting design, and easy to read numbers with notches in the dial, makes it easy to use and know when the indicator is clear of any count.

You will never go back to a traditional after this one.

 

http://www.umpire.org/store/product_info.php?cPath=38_50_51&products_id=149

 

 

jindlg.jpg

 

New Japanese Indicator, exclusive to the ABUA! After an overwhelming interest in the Japaneseet it back. Plate Brushes, our sister organization in Japan has created another creative and very useful umpire tool. With a new palm-fitting design, and easy to read numbers with notches in the dial, makes it easy to use and know when the indicator is clear of any count.

Don't lend this indicator out. It's tough to get it back. Had to get another one. Then I got the first one back. The first one's dials were gummed up. WD-40 bath made it brand new.

grayhawk

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Jocko, I use the same one.  I like the order that ball/strike is simply because it's second nature to me at this point.  But the main reason I use this one is that it's pre-notched for each number on each wheel so it reads like braille.  I don't have to look at it to know what it says.

gnhbua93

gnhbua93

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You will never go back to a traditional after this one.

 

http://www.umpire.org/store/product_info.php?cPath=38_50_51&products_id=149

 

 

jindlg.jpg

 

New Japanese Indicator, exclusive to the ABUA! After an overwhelming interest in the Japanese Plate Brushes, our sister organization in Japan has created another creative and very useful umpire tool. With a new palm-fitting design, and easy to read numbers with notches in the dial, makes it easy to use and know when the indicator is clear of any count. 

Can you tell us, just a little bit more, why you like it so much.

JHSump

JHSump

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You will never go back to a traditional after this one.

 

http://www.umpire.org/store/product_info.php?cPath=38_50_51&products_id=149

 

 

jindlg.jpg

 

New Japanese Indicator, exclusive to the ABUA! After an overwhelming interest in the Japanese Plate Brushes, our sister organization in Japan has created another creative and very useful umpire tool. With a new palm-fitting design, and easy to read numbers with notches in the dial, makes it easy to use and know when the indicator is clear of any count. 

I've been using this one for the last few months, on BigUmpire's recommendation!  And I think it's very nice.  I was already used to strikes on top, and no innings dial.  I like the large numbers.  I like the notches at zero.  Now, almost the only time I look at the indicator is between innings, and when I might have a question in my mind on the number of outs, or if something bizarre happens that makes me think twice about the count (e.g., a pickoff then rundown).  I could probably skip the between innings look to, since "outs" has a notch at zero also.

BigUmpire

BigUmpire

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You will never go back to a traditional after this one.

 

http://www.umpire.org/store/product_info.php?cPath=38_50_51&products_id=149

 

 

jindlg.jpg

 

New Japanese Indicator, exclusive to the ABUA! After an overwhelming interest in the Japanese Plate Brushes, our sister organization in Japan has created another creative and very useful umpire tool. With a new palm-fitting design, and easy to read numbers with notches in the dial, makes it easy to use and know when the indicator is clear of any count. 

Can you tell us, just a little bit more, why you like it so much.

 

BIG Numbers, notched dials, dissapears in you hand.

Richvee

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Bought this one this season and I love it. I like the weight, I like the notches, I like the 2 strikes, 3 balls, 2 outs with innings. (I like the innings for counting runs). 

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JHSump

JHSump

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I used to use the cheapest, 3 dial indicator (strike, ball, out, 3, 4, 3) available, like

https://www.ump-attire.com/Baseball-Umpire-Equipment/Bags-Tools/Indicators/A3041_3-Dial-Plastic-Umpire-Indicator?id=73

 

Then, I got the Japanese indicator on the right in the attached image, after seeing a post by @BigUmpire. Notches at zero so I don't have to look when resetting the numbers for a new batter! And, if I do have to glance at it when I lose track in my head (e.g., after a rundown), the large numbers are easy to see quickly.

 

Then, because of threads like this one, I bought the All-Star indicator on the left. It's got different notches on each number, and a separate wheel to keep track of runs scored (sometimes necessary). It arrived today, just in time for a game tonight! I figured I'd never again even need to glance at the indicator.

 

I took both indicators to the field, the All-Star for use in the game, the Japanese indicator just in case...

 

Ok, YMMV, to each his own, etc., etc., but here is my report.

 

I found the All-Star indicator to be way too big for me. Maybe my hands are too small for it. I am only 5'9" and others on this forum are probably much bigger than me. Notice how the top (where strikes and balls are) is quite a bit wider than for the Japanese indicator. I keep my indicator in my left hand, and remove my mask with my left hand. And, the All-Star indicator was clanging against my mask when I removed my mask.

 

Other issues I had with the All-Star:

 

1) The notches are oddly positioned on the strike wheel --- on top. My thumb has to be almost double-jointed to point down from above and feel the notches on the strike wheel when it is in position. So reading the notches is a stretch, literally.

 

2) Trigger finger usage of the ball wheel is actually annoying, to me anyway. Especially when trying to click past the pointy notch for ball 1.

 

3) The "innings/runs" wheel is so easy to turn (short turn for next number) I found I was running up the score without even trying!

 

4) When I had to glance at the indicator to read the dials, the numbers were small, and almost hidden deep in their small openings. If I didn't hold the indicator at just the right angle, the numbers were partially obscured.

 

Halfway through the game, I switched back to the Japanese indicator. I was glad I took it with me. Maybe I didn't give the All-Star a full try (full game), but I could not wait to get back to the Japanese indicator!

 

I did not fully appreciate the ergonomic design of the Japanese indicator! Here are some pluses of the Japanese indicator I did not appreciate until now:

 

1) It is thin at the top (strikes) so handling the mask is a breeze with the indicator in my hand.

 

2) The dials on the left for strike and ball are so easy to operate with the thumb without any weird stretch or bend of the thumb or any other finger.

 

3) A glance at the indicator at any angle is enough to see the big, well-exposed numbers clearly.

 

4) And, yes, it is so light it's like holding a feather when waiting for the pitch. Totally off the radar.

 

I will take the All-Star to my next tournament and see if any of my fellow umpires might like it, as a gift. Or, I might use it in my office as a conversation-piece paperweight. But I can't see using it in a game, again.

 

I did like the notched Japanese indicator before this experiment with the All-Star. But now I am now totally sold on the Japanese indicator! No other design I have used is as good, IMHO.

 

 

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Thunderheads

Thunderheads

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Wish they made the Japanese with balsl first.

watch your language young man!!! LOL!!!

 

seriously....that Japanese indicator doesn't make sense .... the direction of the "ball" dial doesn't make sense

JHSump

JHSump

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Wish they made the Japanese with balsl first.

watch your language young man!!! LOL!!!

 

seriously....that Japanese indicator doesn't make sense .... the direction of the "ball" dial doesn't make sense

 

Actually, I find the direction for the "ball" dial is the way it should be! It's perhaps hard to explain, but let me try. That dial requires that you move your thumb toward your palm, then push up to advance the wheel. This is an easy move. But trying to drag the wheel down as you move your thumb into your palm (which you would have to do, if the wheel moved the other way) is harder on your thumb. The first move is more natural, and stronger.

 

I think they thought of many things when designing this indicator.

Thunderheads

Thunderheads

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Wish they made the Japanese with balsl first.

watch your language young man!!! LOL!!!

 

seriously....that Japanese indicator doesn't make sense .... the direction of the "ball" dial doesn't make sense

 

Actually, I find the direction for the "ball" dial is the way it should be! It's perhaps hard to explain, but let me try. That dial requires that you move your thumb toward your palm, then push up to advance the wheel. This is an easy move. But trying to drag the wheel down as you move your thumb into your palm (which you would have to do, if the wheel moved the other way) is harder on your thumb. The first move is more natural, and stronger.

 

I think they thought of many things when designing this indicator.

 

ok ...

but to me, the middle finger moves the "ball" dial up? yes?

JaxRolo

JaxRolo

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Wish they made the Japanese with balsl first.

watch your language young man!!! LOL!!!

seriously....that Japanese indicator doesn't make sense .... the direction of the "ball" dial doesn't make sense

Actually, I find the direction for the "ball" dial is the way it should be! It's perhaps hard to explain, but let me try. That dial requires that you move your thumb toward your palm, then push up to advance the wheel. This is an easy move. But trying to drag the wheel down as you move your thumb into your palm (which you would have to do, if the wheel moved the other way) is harder on your thumb. The first move is more natural, and stronger.

I think they thought of many things when designing this indicator.

ok ...

but to me, the middle finger moves the "ball" dial up? yes?

Be careful what you do with that middle finger!

JHSump

JHSump

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Wish they made the Japanese with balsl first.

watch your language young man!!! LOL!!!

seriously....that Japanese indicator doesn't make sense .... the direction of the "ball" dial doesn't make sense

 

Actually, I find the direction for the "ball" dial is the way it should be! It's perhaps hard to explain, but let me try. That dial requires that you move your thumb toward your palm, then push up to advance the wheel. This is an easy move. But trying to drag the wheel down as you move your thumb into your palm (which you would have to do, if the wheel moved the other way) is harder on your thumb. The first move is more natural, and stronger.

I think they thought of many things when designing this indicator.

 

ok ...

but to me, the middle finger moves the "ball" dial up? yes?

 

Be careful what you do with that middle finger!

 

Ah!

 

You hold the indicator in your left hand, and the "ball" wheel is to the thumb side of your hand. You use the thumb to advance both the "strike" and the "ball" wheels.

Thunderheads

Thunderheads

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Wish they made the Japanese with balsl first.

watch your language young man!!! LOL!!!

seriously....that Japanese indicator doesn't make sense .... the direction of the "ball" dial doesn't make sense

 

Actually, I find the direction for the "ball" dial is the way it should be! It's perhaps hard to explain, but let me try. That dial requires that you move your thumb toward your palm, then push up to advance the wheel. This is an easy move. But trying to drag the wheel down as you move your thumb into your palm (which you would have to do, if the wheel moved the other way) is harder on your thumb. The first move is more natural, and stronger.

I think they thought of many things when designing this indicator.

 

ok ...

but to me, the middle finger moves the "ball" dial up? yes?

 

Be careful what you do with that middle finger!

 

Ah!

 

You hold the indicator in your left hand, and the "ball" wheel is to the thumb side of your hand. You use the thumb to advance both the "strike" and the "ball" wheels.

 

OMG!!! Sorry! I see it ............jet lag! :smachhead:

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