Differences in the High School Appeal rule

[sdix00]

Please check my work.

"Rn" and "Fx" are used in place of R1,R2,R3 and Fielder, etc.

These are all the differences from OBR in the the FED appeal rule.

Appeals 8-2-(1-5), 8-2-6d1, 6-2-2b1,8-4-2q

• Dead ball appeals
  
  • are allowed
    
  • can be Verbal
    
  • can be made by a coach
    

  [*]No appeal necessary

  • Rn taking a running start from behind the base to retouch (automatically out)
    

  [*]Appeals after offense initiates a play are allowed

  [*]An Appeal on the same Rn after Fx errs in appealing is allowed

  • This OBR 7.10 phrase is missing from NFHS
    

  [*]Rn May not return past a previous base to correct a baserunning error during a dead ball and shall be called out on proper appeal.

• "If the defensive team on its first appeal errs, a request for a second appeal on the same runner at the same base shall not be allowed by the umpire."
  

Errors or omissions?

[sdix00]

Just a fun note.

This clip from "Rules by Topic" makes me think that the inmates are running the asylum.

Appeals rules have changed for various reasons. Prior to 1981, the appeals rule was similar to other levels of baseball. The defense had to initiate the appeal by tagging the player or the base where the infraction occurred. Starting in 1981, appeals fell to the responsibility of umpires. The committee felt that baseball was the only sport where obvious rule violations were not penalized when observed by officials. It was felt that this was not consistent with other sports or the rules of good sportsmanship. Some felt that the umpire, by ignoring the infraction, was condoning cheating.

:shakehead:

[Umpire in Chief]

In the state of SC a missed base is to be called by the umpire w/o an appeal.

[johnnyg08]

Some felt that the umpire, by ignoring the infraction, was condoning cheating.

Just a silly, silly, did I mention silly rule!!!

Clearly a statement made by somebody (not sdix000 or any other reader of this site) who might have have been able to spell baseball and sitting on a rules committee telling us how to rule on appeals.

I've heard Jim Evans comment on that old FED appeal rule and I'm sure you can guess how he felt about the rule.

[sdix00]

In the state of SC a missed base is to be called by the umpire w/o an appeal.

This is probably why you split in to two states. I don't blame you.

[JaxRolo]

In the state of SC a missed base is to be called by the umpire w/o an appeal.

At what point does the umpire make the call?

[johnnyg08]

In the state of SC a missed base is to be called by the umpire w/o an appeal.

At what point does the umpire make the call?

I think the rule used to read at the end of a play. Not sure how it reads in SC

[yawetag]

In the state of SC a missed base is to be called by the umpire w/o an appeal.

At what point does the umpire make the call?

I think the rule used to read at the end of a play. Not sure how it reads in SC

I heard it was immediate. To get the answer, I searched around. I found SC's sports rules, but the baseball section mentions nothing of the automatic out. Does anyone have proof this is still in effect (I heard last year it was).

[johnnyg08]

so if BR misses second, would it be a live ball out? and action could continue unless it was the third out then it could become an automatic-on-the-fly time play?

[mstaylor]

It was done at the end of the play. You let all play stop, kill it, then call whoever missed a base or left early. I really hated the rule, it made us the bad guys, especially when you start pulling runs off the board. YEars ago I had a weird game that combined calling appeals and making base awards. Early in the game the pitcher stepped off the rubber and threw to first, throwing the ball in DB. I awarded two bases, the manager came out to question it. The F5 says it must be a stupid HS rule. I tell the F2 that two bases when the pitcher steps off is in all codes. Late in the game the R3 tags and scores, he was good on the tagup. The pitcher steps off and throws to third to appeal him leaving early. Again I award two bases, the manager comes out to protest, takes a step toward home and says never mind and goes to the dugout. I tell the catcher that if I had him leaving early I just call it.