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NCAA rules (i.e. no dead ball appeals) While the ball is dead, the defense attempts to make an appeal ("runner left early" or "runner missed the base"whatever - the play is immaterial to this question). Does the umpire responsible for the call a) make a "soft" safe signal (not indicating judgment on the playing action, but denying the appeal, without saying he is denying the appeal), or say something like "the ball is dead" and making no signal or further comment?

I just noticed BU running off the field right away, as the OTHC comes down to argue with PU. Not good. At the end of the video, he's coming back to the infield, but you gotta be watching your partner before running off in a crazy game-ending situation like that. Don't leave him there alone!

Nice job by PU - a little close to the dish at the start, but starts 3BLX and stays in the wedge, and waits for action to complete and gets the out.

Wow. That's a helluva way to end a ballgame. https://ftw.usatoday.com/2019/02/college-baseball-home-plate-tag

Ah... Jesús... I like him very much. But he no help with curveball.....

I'm still wondering why U1 and U3 never so much as took a step towards home plate to shepherd the guy away......

This is the part that was lacking in my situation. I would feel like an ass if during the plate meeting I were to ask, "So, do you guys want to have a run rule?" It implies you expect one of them to blow the other out. I wish the rule omitted that one little phrase - then, if it came to it, we could end the game if they both agreed. Oh well.....

Not sure this is true. I was working a D3 game that had VT ahead by 12 runs. After bottom 7, both teams start walking off as if it is over, when the assistant AD comes out of the press box behind home plate and yells out to us that the run limit rule no longer applies in this conference and we have to play it out. Game ends after 9 full innings, a full 45 minutes later, with the VT winning by 13 runs. Did I mention it was 37 degrees with a 30 mph wind, with a 23 degree windchill? And that we had another 9-inning game to go after this? And that this 2nd game was won by the VT by 8 runs? Ugh. But my point in posting this is that I'm not sure the coaches can agree to a run limit if it's not in the conference rules. Maybe if the AD isn't there! lol

@Maven - can you explain? I take it that you are saying F1 is still protected, but I thought since the ball deflected more than a step and reach away, he is not.....

Stumbled across this video that was posted 11 years ago (YouTube is that old??).... My initial thought was that F1 is no longer protected after the ball hit him and bounced away by more than "a step and a reach", thus this would be obstruction on F1, so BR gets 1st. Thoughts?

Yep - Roxanne was super helpful, and I got my 54L in 4 days. Needed it taken in a little at the waist, and then, of course, the weather got too warm to wear it. DAH! It might be cool enough tonight to wear, so it's in the truck - we'll see. Old school, baby!

The only way to learn 3-man is to get experience running 3-man, like noumpere said. Go to clinics like Kevin_K said. One opportunity I try to exploit is Fall Ball - coaches are glad to get 2 guys there, so they are MORE than happy to see 3. If I am working something in Fall, I always try to find a 3rd guy to come with us. or ask if I can be the 3rd when I know the 2 guys working something. Get out there and work it - it's really the only way.

Nevermind.... 6-2-g

I thought the "or illegally alters the actions of a fielder in the immediate act of making a play " was making a distinction between a FPSR situation and other situations, but I guess I misread it. I can't find the provision in the rule book for TOI, though I see it here in the case book citation. Is it in the rules somewhere?

Under which rule code? Under NCAA (2-26-a) he has to leave sight and sound of the field. Under OBR (6.04.d), he has to leave the dugout, but may "change to street clothes and either leave the park or take a seat in the grandstand well removed from the vicinity of his team’s bench or bullpen."

8-4-2 ART. 2 . . . Any runner is out when he: ... b. does not legally slide and causes illegal contact and/or illegally alters the actions of a fielder in the immediate act of making a play, or on a force play, does not slide in a direct line between the bases; or 1. A runner may slide in a direction away from the fielder to avoid making ­contact or altering the play of the fielder. 2. Runners are never required to slide, but if a runner elects to slide, the slide must be legal. (2-32-1, 2) Jumping, hurdling, and leaping are all legal attempts to avoid a fielder as long as the fielder is lying on the ground. Diving over a fielder is illegal. PENALTY: The runner is out. Interference is called and the ball is dead immediately. On a force-play slide with less than two outs, the runner is declared out, as well as the batter-runner. Runners shall return to the bases occupied at the time of the pitch. With two outs, the runner is declared out. The batter is credited with a fielder's choice.

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I have a barely-used pair of 3n2 base shoes, size 12. I usually wear 11.5, but bought these a little big and after wearing them about 6-7 times, I think I screwed up getting them too big. Other than the liner on top of the insole lifting up near the heel some, they're in good shape,. They were $65-$70 new, but I just want to get something for them, so $35, shipped to your door. Picture is from the web.

And, for once, the announcer said something right - if they're stealing your signs, get better signs! LOL

IDK about OBR, but in NCAA you could get visual obstruction (8-3-f) if the defense attempts a pickoff while F6 is in front of R2.

The pitcher gains an advantage by disguising which pitching position he is using. The advantage comes in the fact that you have to stop if you are in the set, and you don't if in the windup. This allows F1 to deceive both the batter and any runners as to when the pitch is about to commence, giving an unfair advantage to himself and the defense. Runners don't know if F1 can make a move to a base, nor if he has to stop before delivering the pitch, so they have to stay closer to the base. Likewise, hitters don't know when the pitch is coming. These are the reasons we have established, legal pitching positions, and the hybrid does not conform to either - thus, rightly illegal.

Here's the play (mp4 file at bottom of this post.) I think George's comment that "In this case, interference shall not be called" (at the 1:12 mark) is part of the exception he is citing, not in relation to the play. However, it seems to me that R3 made a move to his left to avoid contact with F2, and that this move might make the exception apply to him. But the point of the NCAA posting this video seems to be that this should have been called interference.... I'm confused now. They need a clarification on this one. FPSR at home.mp4

Full answer from NCAA: "Rule 7-11-f states “A batter is out when the batter intentionally or unintentionally interferes with the catcher’s fielding or throwing by stepping out of the batter’s box or making any other movement that hinders a defensive player’s action at home plate.” Even though the interference was unintentional, the batter is out for interfering with the catcher’s fielding or throwing. There is no exception listed for trying to avoid a pitch and it was not the catcher’s fault that the batter chose to jump forward and step out of the batter’s box to try to avoid being hit. Unfortunate and unintentional, but the batter is out unless the runner is retired."