Jimurray

I don't see how that applies when no one was forced to advance. If it applies WHEN a sub runner is put into the game then it would it be before the batter went to 1B and they require the sub to touch 1B before others are forced? Is this about scoring a run due to force more than who touches 1B?

I don't see any OBR rule that requires the batter to touch 1B before he is subbed for. We don't need an injury provision. We had a legal sub during a dead ball who touched and was on 1B when HE was called out. MLB will be along shortly with an explanation and the interp. OBR has an old interp from Fitzpatrick that he agrees with FED and NCAA not to call time until that batter reaches 1B. That was before the dead ball IBB. Even now in FED if they want to walk a good hitting catcher I'll let the CR go to 1B and tell the catcher he can go to the dugout.

I think Marlins - Cubs was a kick. Did the other team challenge to NY for a rule question? "5.10(a)  A player, or players, may be substituted during a game at any time the ball is dead. Regarding calling time in OBR: "5.12(8)  Except in the cases stated in paragraphs (2) and (3)(A) of this rule, no umpire shall call “Time” while a play is in progress."

Wednesday 8/21, TB - A's, B8. News has a little conflict with 2 TB fielders because of F3 not chasing a missed pick but the play resulted in an out. Andujar was safe at 1B but returned in fair to retrieve his helmet. As he retrieved his helmet something spooked him that he was going to be played on at 1B and he was called out and confirmed on replay. I'm sure CCS will cover Kotsay's ejection which might be for arguing a replay but also might be for arguing Bacchus judgement of an attempt to 2B. I see no attempt and while the rule requires immediate return we do allow a pause to get rid of whatever the batter was wearing. I apologize if anyone listens to announcers and bites their tongue over "turning the wrong way" Miguel Andujar is out at first after review | 08/21/2024 | MLB.com

It would depend on the league/org. PONY makes it clear: "10 O. PONY Baseball will not be utilizing a pitch clock. P. PONY Baseball will not be utilizing the MLB disengagement rule."

I think he was asking for the disengagement cite which is not in the OBR rules. So OBR does not "say it", MLB says it.

Catcher doesn't turn around and asks 'what was the matter with that one Jim?" "Nothing, I effin missed it."

Apparently they are not going by the RIM

I have not seen any of these plays. But do we realize that LL has not adopted any changes to OBR in, I don't know how long. The current OBR OBS interp would not apply. Bona Fide slide might be how it was called when it wasn't called.

I think this refers to a different thread but doesn't Youtube have a clip ability? Or does MLBGlobal11 restrict that?

It isn't a factor in your OP but this is still CI. Let's have the BR miss 1B and be called safe with an appeal just after where he is called out. The batter and R1 advanced but since R3 didn't the CI would be enforced and the appeal out would be negated.

As to 3, some levels you ask, other levels such as MLB, the coach has to ask. In your OP I doubt anyone would want the play. As to 1 and 2: "6.01(c) Catcher Interference The batter becomes a runner and is entitled to first base without liability to be put out (provided he advances to and touches first base) when the catcher or any fielder interferes with him. If a play follows the interference, the manager of the offense may advise the plate umpire that he elects to decline the interference penalty and accept the play. Such election shall be made immediately at the end of the play. However, if the batter reaches first base on a hit, an error, a base on balls, a hit batsman, or otherwise, and all other runners advance at least one base, the play proceeds without reference to the interference. Rule 6.01(c) Comment: If catcher’s interference is called with a play in progress the umpire will allow the play to continue because the manager may elect to take the play. If the batterrunner missed first base, or a runner misses his next base, he shall be considered as having reached the base, as stated in Note of Rule 5.06(b)(3)(D). Examples of plays the manager might elect to take:   1.  Runner on third, one out, batter hits fly ball to the outfield on which the runner scores but catcher’s interference was called. The offensive manager may elect to take the run and have batter called out or have runner remain at third and batter awarded first base.   2.  Runner on second base. Catcher interferes with batter. As he bunts ball fairly sending runner to third base. The manager may rather have runner on third base with an out on the play than have runners on second and first"

A batted ball that hits the top of the wall or any part of the wall is not in flight anymore. We then have to decide if it has passed out of the playing field in flight to be a HR. MLBUM clears that up a little and if it bounds into the stands it is a HR and if it bounds back onto the area of the playing field it is a live ball. The 2017 HR might have looked like it didn't bound back into the area of the playing field from the umpire's angle so the fielder touched a ball that had bounded into the stands as a HR. That wasn't the case as we can see from the side angle but it doesn't look like it was reviewed. Or they kicked it.

There was nothing to call. It's not a balk or IP. CCS and quite a few others did not understand that this was a "don't do that". Nelson was not advising the pitcher about how to avoid a balk. No MLB umpire would do that as the opposing coach would have a fit for the umpire helping the other team.

Yellow lines on top of the fence mean nothing. There are some yellow lines on problematic geometry in some stadiums that do define a HR. I don't think that was a rule kick. It's possible the ump's angle looks like the ball hit the padding and went straight up when Mahtook knocked it over. That would be a ball that did not come back into the field of play so it would be a HR. If it went to replay the side view would negate that judgment as the ball did return into the field of play.

Isn't B6 now proper due to a pitch making B5's at bat legal? What's to rectify?

If the book doesn't specify the penalty it can be a "don't do that". Eg: Not separating the hands before taking the set position, not having one hand at your side in the set position. Jeff Nelson ejected a pitcher and everyone thought he was advising the pitcher so as not to balk him. What he did was tell the pitcher he needed to have one hand at his side. The pitcher disagreed and was ejected as per J-R and other interps where once you tell the pitcher not to do that and he doesn't comply you eject him.

The rule is poorly worded but the MLBUM has us wait to call a balk if the ball is rolling toward the foul line where it would become a ball and not a balk with runners on if it crossed. The MLBUM also adds accidently or intentionally which is why tossing the ball on the rubber is a balk. Pitcher failing to deliver in OBR with no runners, that's nothing,

There are only 2 Illegal Pitches in OBR that have a penalty and one pitching violation that is treated as an illegal pitch. As to FED coaches should advise their pitchers to drop the ball if they stumble during delivery. FED allows that without penalty if the clock, which no one is using, is not violated.

Winters explains the rule: MLB umpire reveals reason why Padres got hosed on tough Ha-Seong Kim replay review (friarsonbase.com) The first was back when Mahtook was playing a few years ago. It either was a kick or a field specific ground rule.

It may be illegal but where is the penalty? That's nothing with no runners in OBR and FED although FED can have a pitch clock violation. I think NCAA wants a ball called for either not delivering or a pitch clock and I believe I read some inane rationale that otherwise pitchers might game the pitch clock rule

Somebody made a safe call, most likely U2 from where he would be on a base hit. Most likely surprised by seeing U3's back turned without a going out signal. Any mechanic that involves going out and staying out also has the out umpire turn and watch the action after his responsibility is over so he can be of assistance if the crew needs to get together.

He had to ponder whether the ball was fair or foul and it took him a moment for where it bounced to register with him. Then he had to signal fair.

I'm guessing he didn't get a job out of umpire school.

Video doesn't show what U2 was doing but the announcers saw a safe call from someone. He might have read a base hit and then seeing U3 out, without an arm up signal, covered the play as best he could. No excuse for U3 though.