Jimurray

The rules were written for classic windup pitchers and were worded to prevent “running into the pitch”. Now we have some, facing the batter, windup pitchers who turn sideways in their delivery using a stutter step. That is not running into the pitch. And nobody quibbles that the pitcher raises and rotates the pivot foot from the ground in violation of the wording. But you have call it the way the boss wants.

You would have to apply the rule wording but would you know why NCAA considers it illegal or an advantage?

I had these from a LMB/OBR game I attended last year. Both legal in OBR. What say you in NCAA: IMG_2834.mov IMG_2833.mov

""without gaining ground toward home plate and one step forward toward home plate with the free foot.” Rationale: To add clarifying language of gaining ground towards home plate." I think you will need clarifying video examples for square windup pitchers who take a stutter step with the free foot to turn sideways in their delivery. That stutter step gains ground in varying degrees to 1B and HP.

That neck opening looks small. I had to get a seamstress to modify my Team Wendy. Might have the same issue with this.

Hijack continues. Once you go to 3 or 4 lanes in Texas the right lane is the fast lane.

Stopping the windup is illegal by casebook in FED. I don't see a problem with varying your delivery as in the second and we don't call the first in my neck of the woods

Do you still call NCAA? Randy Bruins doesn’t like the 2nd one but the first is legal in NCAA and both are legal in OBR.

Last I remember, Wendelstedt allows gross misses to be corrected in OBR.

So if the batter starts celebrating before 1B, peeling off before we can consider 1B "passed", we wait a reasonable amount of time, some of us possibly telling him to go to 1B, as the rule requires a "refusal", and we call him out if he doesn't comply? Does it matter where the "dogpile' ends up?

Interesting take on UmpSmart Facebook sit that I disagree with but Facebook is not a place to argue rules. But it does engender some sits that we might wonder what to do. OBR 1. Bases loaded, 2 out, tie game, ball 4. Batter goes to 1B and R3 proceeds to HP and misses it in his jumping celebration. 2. Same sit. R3 touches HP and batter runs wildly down the line to touch 1B and just misses it as he continues to the dogpile in the infield dirt. 5.09(b) Requires us to have a touch of both bases to declare the game over and requires either runner to "refuse" before we call them out. Or do we consider the base touched and then require an appeal of a "missed" base.

Just change "probably" to "should and did"

You can't explain signaling fair on a no sht ball and not turning with the throw to watch action on the field.

I guess U3 overthought "when you go out you stay out".

IF U2 reads this as a base hit, which it was, he wouldn't expect U3 to go out. Does LL use the arm up mechanic to signal you are going out?

He might have confused "watch the ball, glance the runner", with "watch the fielder, don't watch the ball, don't glance the runner". But to be fair he did have to keep looking at the fielder until he could judge a fair ball and signal it. Not.

When I do watch baseball, I do it with the audio off

I'll leave it to @Senor Azul to post Carl Childress' BRD "TAG OUT" code and interpreter differences regarding tags of runners and tags of bases.

There was an NCAA play some years back where the fielder stepped on 1B with secure possession and tripped and hit the ground with the ball then coming loose. I think the runner was called safe and many of us thought that was the wrong call. Some of us thought, from the OBR definitions and possibly some cite from Jim Evans, that it should have been an out. However NCAA has this in their Tag defintion: "The fielder shall maintain or regain control of their body and if they drop the ball due to their lack of body control or control of the ball, it is not a tag."

A retired runner in LL is covered by the retired runner INT rule where by the act of running or sliding into 2B is not by that act alone interference if it is normal base running. We use the MLBUM definition of a bona fide slide to consider it normal base running. That definition existed long before MLB revised the slide rule but MLB umpires did not enforce it.

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I think you have it backward. The Type 2 obstructed runner was tagged out before reaching the base he would have been awarded. In that case the MLBUM says to call time. I believe that PU said he should have called time and awarded HP instead of signaling safe.

Some years back MLB started the season with a directive/interp that dropping on the transfer could only be called if the ball was in the throwing hand and dropped from there. They backed off that by some time in April.

Last argument I recall is do you use this with R1 and then revert with R1, R2 or bases loaded. I think the consensus was KISS. But since I am not stupid now, having been so in the past, if you tell me that's what we are doing I'm doing it.

It does matter if he does it for a reason that makes sense and we might adopt his method.