Celebrate home run in little league

[Guest Mark]

Home run over fence in little league, kids in dougout come out to celebrate, and they touch him before he touches the plate is he out?????

 

[Senor Azul]

From the 2018 Little League Rules Instruction Manual (RIM)—this is what LL teaches its umpires--

7.09 - It is interference by a batter or a runner when –

(h) in the judgment of the umpire, the base coach at third base, or first base, by touching or holding the runner, physically assists that runner in returning to or leaving third base or first base;

Play: The batter hits a home run with the bases full. Each runner who passes the third base coach is congratulated with a “high five” by the base coach. Ruling: No call. This is not assistance.

INSTRUCTOR COMMENTS:

Giving a “high five” or patting the player on the back after a home run IS NOT PHYSICAL ASSISTANCE. Do not call the player out for receiving a “high five” or a congratulatory pat on the back in situations such as this.

[Lou B]

No

[The Man in Blue]

Yes ... the umpire is OUT of his mind if he makes that call.

 

On a tangent, down south I have seen a noticeable uptick during summer ball (18u and 16u) of teams wanting to come out the dugout every time a run scores.  Coaches and parents, please break your kids of this habit.  They can come out on a home run because it is a dead ball, that's fine.  If they come out any other time and keep doing it, they are going to eventually end up going home early.  

[ArchAngel72]

31 minutes ago, The Man in Blue said:

Yes ... the umpire is OUT of his mind if he makes that call.

 

On a tangent, down south I have seen a noticeable uptick during summer ball (18u and 16u) of teams wanting to come out the dugout every time a run scores.  Coaches and parents, please break your kids of this habit.  They can come out on a home run because it is a dead ball, that's fine.  If they come out any other time and keep doing it, they are going to eventually end up going home early.  

 

Had this happen in a 12U game I watched the ball come in on a live play and did not hit anyone went straight to the back stop and there was luckily a clear path between the catcher and the ball.

Otherwise all heck would have taken place as I would have to call inf on the bench and that would have caused another bruhaha.. 

I warned the coach after that No more celebrations even if it was a real over the fence HR all players were then relegated to the dugout if they were not directly playing on the field.

 

[Rich Ives]

On 7/12/2022 at 2:36 PM, ArchAngel72 said:

I warned the coach after that No more celebrations even if it was a real over the fence HR all players were then relegated to the dugout if they were not directly playing on the field.

Wrong approach. Let them celebrate. No harm.

[ArchAngel72]

3 hours ago, Rich Ives said:

Wrong approach. Let them celebrate. No harm.

After they stormed onto the field with the ball in play I wanted NO more possible crap show events to contend with.

the other coach was pretty miffed when I did not call anything as the ball never touched anyone and stayed in view and easily reachable.

So yeah I restrained the team to the dugout which is within my ability.

they as a team messed up. they as a team learned to not do that again along with the coach.

 

[Velho]

On 7/12/2022 at 11:00 AM, The Man in Blue said:

On a tangent, down south I have seen a noticeable uptick during summer ball (18u and 16u) of teams wanting to come out the dugout every time a run scores. 

I haven't seen this (fortunately). I will say I have respect for the teams that don't come out for a HR unless it's a game winner. They still celebrate but not like they won the World Series for hitting a 2 run HR in the 4th inning that made it a 3 run game.

[The Man in Blue]

4 hours ago, Rich Ives said:

Wrong approach. Let them celebrate. No harm.

I’m hoping you are referring to a home run, not any random run when the ball is in play (which is where the conversation went).

There is plenty of harm that can come of that, the least of which I am concerned about is interfering with a play.  I’m more concerned with somebody getting hurt.  @ArchAngel72, my advice is to always frame it that way … unauthorized players on the field is a player safety issue above all else.  Whether it is 20 guys wanting to come swing bats (sans helmets, of course) or the 6 guys who think it takes all 6 of them to play batboy (even though the runner who just scored has already grabbed the bat) or the one lonely kid keeping the coach’s illegal bucket warm … it is about the possibility of somebody getting hurt because they are not paying attention.

[ArchAngel72]

7 minutes ago, The Man in Blue said:

I’m hoping you are referring to a home run, not any random run when the ball is in play (which is where the conversation went).

There is plenty of harm that can come of that, the least of which I am concerned about is interfering with a play.  I’m more concerned with somebody getting hurt.  @ArchAngel72, my advice is to always frame it that way … unauthorized players on the field is a player safety issue above all else.  Whether it is 20 guys wanting to come swing bats (sans helmets, of course) or the 6 guys who think it takes all 6 of them to play batboy (even though the runner who just scored has already grabbed the bat) or the one lonely kid keeping the coach’s illegal bucket warm … it is about the possibility of somebody getting hurt because they are not paying attention.

This was about them all coming onto the field of play during live ball play to congratulate a player who just scored.  Now earlier in the game one of them hit a HR when that happened I allowed them to celebrate the HR. But after they fouled up and came onto the field during a outfield hit and caused an issue with 11 guys out of the dugout near home plate. Yeah I penalized them to remain in the dugout for the rest of the inning and a half of play. 

There is a time for fun but when you should all not be out there Dont be.  

[beerguy55]

2 hours ago, The Man in Blue said:

I’m hoping you are referring to a home run, not any random run when the ball is in play (which is where the conversation went).

There is plenty of harm that can come of that, the least of which I am concerned about is interfering with a play.  I’m more concerned with somebody getting hurt.  @ArchAngel72, my advice is to always frame it that way … unauthorized players on the field is a player safety issue above all else.  Whether it is 20 guys wanting to come swing bats (sans helmets, of course) or the 6 guys who think it takes all 6 of them to play batboy (even though the runner who just scored has already grabbed the bat) or the one lonely kid keeping the coach’s illegal bucket warm … it is about the possibility of somebody getting hurt because they are not paying attention.

Yes - the original statement is they restricted the team to dugout for the remainder of the game, even on a dead ball home run.

I myself would have suggested a warning, and an explanation that it's only acceptable on an over the fence home run, otherwise keep the celebration to the dugout.   Putting them all in the penalty box seems extreme.