Play at the plate, review

[Thunderheads]

Ok, ..I know there aren't a ton of angles on the videos, and that NY has many more views of this.

 

However .... the actions of BOTH F2 and the runner make things pretty obvious, don't they?

 

http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/63817564/v36558053

[MadMax]

I can tell you it wasn't reviewed for a 7.13 violation. Iannetta's IP, the throw, the reception of the throw, the manner of the tag attempt (two hands presenting, then extend), and subsequent follow-through to stand over the plate – all _textbook_ F2 actions. I would show this to aspiring F2's. This is a Scioscia -skippered team, though, so you expect this from Angel F2's.

They were looking to see if the tag was actually applied. My money says it was that the out call wasn't _confirmed_, it was not overturned because there wasn't inconvertible, conclusive proof that he was safe. We have no way of knowing whether or not a patch of leather made contact with a few fibers of jersey...

... which is all the difference in an apparent HBP.

Gerry was a little slow on the call, sure, but to us, timing is everything.

[noumpere]

 

 

However .... the actions of BOTH F2 and the runner make things pretty obvious, don't they?

 

 

 

Gerry was a little slow on the call, sure, but to us, timing is everything.

 

the actions of F2 and R3 might be due to a missed tag, or they might be due to the late call (and just wanting to be sure).

 

GD could have helped the latter by pointing to the tag when it happened, and THEN had the later timing on the out call once he confirmed control.

 

Or, maybe they are instructed not to do that.  What if he indicated "tag" right away, F2 then leaves while R3 touches the plate, and replay overturns the call.  The defense can claim that the "tag" call precluded a later tag which "obviously would have been made when R3 was behind the plate ....."

[grayhawk]

Either way, I felt Ianetta was too casual.  He could have easily tagged him a second time to prevent any doubt.

[NovaScotiaBlue]

I have a different take on this play and the actions of the home plate umpire
The tag was missed, but then the catcher immediately comes over and steps on home plate(demonstrates an appeal).
This is when the home plate umpire gives the out call. So it was not a slow, but delayed out call.
IMHO this was seems to be a successful appeal of a missed base. 

[grayhawk]

I have a different take on this play and the actions of the home plate umpire

The tag was missed, but then the catcher immediately comes over and steps on home plate(demonstrates an appeal).

This is when the home plate umpire gives the out call. So it was not a slow, but delayed out call.

IMHO this was seems to be a successful appeal of a missed base.

Not a chance. With the runner still in the vicinity of the plate, he must be tagged. Merely stepping on the base is only allowed when the runner is heading back to the dugout.

Davis didn't see whether or not the tag was applied, so he waited to see the player reactions. Since Ianetta didn't immediately move to reapply a tag and the runner didn't immediately try to touch, he then called the out.