Breakaway sports necklaces

[JHSump]

We are starting our Dixie Youth Baseball District Tournament soon, and I have a question about sports necklaces.

 

DYB has changed their "no jewelry" rule to say "breakaway sports necklaces" are allowed.

 

My question: are all those colorful braided necklaces I see players wearing of the breakaway sort?  Or, are some not?  Anybody know?

 

If some are not breakaway, how can I tell??  Have each players yank his apart for me, before each game?  LOL

[Thunderheads]

Isn't that something DYB should have spelled out?

[ALStripes17]

We are starting our Dixie Youth Baseball District Tournament soon, and I have a question about sports necklaces.

DYB has changed their "no jewelry" rule to say "breakaway sports necklaces" are allowed.

My question: are all those colorful braided necklaces I see players wearing of the breakaway sort? Or, are some not? Anybody know?

If some are not breakaway, how can I tell?? Have each players yank his apart for me, before each game? LOL

I'm in Dixie as well. Those necklaces should have a simple male/female mechanism. If they are tied on (like some baseball seam necklaces) or are clipped with a 'C' clasp, then they are not allowed.

All of those phiten necklaces (twisted ones included) are breakaway, unless theyve been altered. I dont split hairs over it; however, the kids should be able to just yank them off if you ask (then put them back on haha)

[cyclonehokiece]

Most are breakaway, if you see a knot holding it together, it goes.

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[Jocko]

@JHSump - Gentlemen, are all your players legally equipped?

My hands are clean

[JHSump]

@Thunderheads They probably should have, but did not. Here is the full rule:

 

1.11(d)(2) Players on the field or in the dugout area shall not wear jewelry of any kind, for safety reasons. This includes bracelets, necklaces and piercings of any kind. EXCEPTION: Players may wear breakaway sports necklaces. Medical or religious tags or medallions may be worn and secured by tape if deemed necessary by the umpire-in-chief. PENALTY: When a first time occurrence is noted, a warning shall be given to both teams, which applies to all players. Upon the second occurrence, the manager and player(s) will be ejected from the game.

 

@Jocko During all-star tournaments DYB actually makes us check equipment before each game. So, we check bats (metal/composite bats must say "Approved for Dixie Youth Baseball" among other things), batting helmets (must have a chin strap if there are snaps, among other things).  We also used to ask if any player is wearing jewelry, and then tell them to take it off.

 

I still went through LEGS at the plate meeting, anyway. And, I still plan to.  ("Are your players legally equipped?" is the "E" for "Equipment" in LEGS, for those of you that don't recognize LEGS.) 

 

Now...?  At the equipment check, I am tempted to ask all the players with braided necklaces to yank on them!  As @ALStripes17 suggests (or may have suggested).  But, of course, some kid may destroy his non-breakaway necklace.

 

And, it's a pretty hefty penalty for violating the jewelry rule, similar to Fed but worse: at the first violation give a team warning --- to both teams --- then at the next violation, eject the player(s) and the corresponding manager.

 

I am the UIC for my local District.  So, I'm now thinking I may explain this rule to the managers at the pre-tournament Credentials Meeting.  And, then we will ask about equipment at the plate meetings, and be covered, as Jocko suggests.

 

Then, if we spot a violation we can address it, as suggested by @cyclonehokiece

[JaxRolo]

They all look "breakaway" to me.<br />Just umpire. Like @Jocko said- legally? Done

[Jocko]

Seems similar to asking F2 if he's wearing a cup. Not my job. Necklaces aren't 'equipment' and shouldn't be treated as such, IMO.

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If you make em yank em, whose to say one doesnt get changed after the check? I was this kinda devious lad that'd do it just cos I could get away with it.

@JHSump, maybe you include the necklaces as an aside @ the plate meeting. Once HCs confirm it, your job is done. Let me know what you decide to do.

[Rich Ives]

FED.  You ask the head coach if all his players are legally equipped. He says yes.

 

F2 comes out with just a skull cap for a helmet.

 

Now what do you do?

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FED.  You ask the head coach if all his players are legally equipped. He says yes.

 

F2 comes out with just a skull cap for a helmet.

 

Now what do you do?

 

FED doesn't spell out penalties for equipment violations, but if he comes out with a skull cap, he turns around and gets the required equipment before setting foot on the field again, and the coach is put on notice.  If it happens again, I EJ the player and restrict the coach, analogous to illegal bat.  Want to protest?  Be my guest. 

[Rich Ives]

 

FED.  You ask the head coach if all his players are legally equipped. He says yes.

 

F2 comes out with just a skull cap for a helmet.

 

Now what do you do?

 

FED doesn't spell out penalties for equipment violations, but if he comes out with a skull cap, he turns around and gets the required equipment before setting foot on the field again, and the coach is put on notice.  If it happens again, I EJ the player and restrict the coach, analogous to illegal bat.  Want to protest?  Be my guest. 

 

 

So it IS your job to enforce equipment.

 

Who said anything about a protest?

[Jocko]

FED.  You ask the head coach if all his players are legally equipped. He says yes.

 

F2 comes out with just a skull cap for a helmet.

 

Now what do you do?

 

FED doesn't spell out penalties for equipment violations, but if he comes out with a skull cap, he turns around and gets the required equipment before setting foot on the field again, and the coach is put on notice.  If it happens again, I EJ the player and restrict the coach, analogous to illegal bat.  Want to protest?  Be my guest.

 

So it IS your job to enforce equipment equipment is covered in the rules. Our job is to enforce the rules. Ergo....we do enforce equioment violations that we see, notice, are brought to our attention. In THIS particular instance, it's a slippery slope. Best let the HCs deal with it. But, you know this.

[Minnz]

We are starting our Dixie Youth Baseball District Tournament soon, and I have a question about sports necklaces.

 

DYB has changed their "no jewelry" rule to say "breakaway sports necklaces" are allowed.

 

My question: are all those colorful braided necklaces I see players wearing of the breakaway sort?  Or, are some not?  Anybody know?

 

If some are not breakaway, how can I tell??  Have each players yank his apart for me, before each game?  LOL

Are you allowed to alter any rules for your tournament as the host?  Can you simply make a NO jewelry rule for it?

[JaxRolo]

FED. You ask the head coach if all his players are legally equipped. He says yes.<br /><br />F2 comes out with just a skull cap for a helmet.<br /><br />Now what do you do?

Apples and Mandarins.

[ALStripes17]

We are starting our Dixie Youth Baseball District Tournament soon, and I have a question about sports necklaces.

DYB has changed their "no jewelry" rule to say "breakaway sports necklaces" are allowed.

My question: are all those colorful braided necklaces I see players wearing of the breakaway sort? Or, are some not? Anybody know?

If some are not breakaway, how can I tell?? Have each players yank his apart for me, before each game? LOL

Are you allowed to alter any rules for your tournament as the host? Can you simply make a NO jewelry rule for it?

Not if you want to stay in good graces with Dixie Youth Baseball as the host franchise

[mjr_2013]

Why do this?

 

What is so great about those dumb necklaces that a rule needs to be changed to allow them??

[Rulekeep]

Why do this?

What is so great about those dumb necklaces that a rule needs to be changed to allow them??

They're cool. I wear one. They're allowed by most athletic leagues so players wear them because other jewelry is banned. Most baseball leagues don't allow them but I bet those Dixie kids are happy now.

[mjr_2013]

 

Why do this?

What is so great about those dumb necklaces that a rule needs to be changed to allow them??

They're cool. I wear one. They're allowed by most athletic leagues so players wear them because other jewelry is banned. Most baseball leagues don't allow them but I bet those Dixie kids are happy now.

 

 

So what happens when a kid goes all Mr. T now with twenty gold chains around their neck, but custom adds the break-off plastic connectors to them? Technically legal, correct?

 

And they aren't allowed by most. Any league that does not allow jewelry does not allow those. Neither Fed nor LL allows them. A lot of umpires choose not to see them though which is a whole different topic.

[Rulekeep]

Why do this?

What is so great about those dumb necklaces that a rule needs to be changed to allow them??

They're cool. I wear one. They're allowed by most athletic leagues so players wear them because other jewelry is banned. Most baseball leagues don't allow them but I bet those Dixie kids are happy now.

So what happens when a kid goes all Mr. T now with twenty gold chains around their neck, but custom adds the break-off plastic connectors to them? Technically legal, correct?

And they aren't allowed by most. Any league that does not allow jewelry does not allow those. Neither Fed nor LL allows them. A lot of umpires choose not to see them though which is a whole different topic.I call kids out of their chains and such. There's worse things to injure themselves with than necklaces that break apart when tugged.

[BaltimoreUmpire]

Why do this?

What is so great about those dumb necklaces that a rule needs to be changed to allow them??

They're cool. I wear one. They're allowed by most athletic leagues so players wear them because other jewelry is banned. Most baseball leagues don't allow them but I bet those Dixie kids are happy now.

So what happens when a kid goes all Mr. T now with twenty gold chains around their neck, but custom adds the break-off plastic connectors to them? Technically legal, correct?

And they aren't allowed by most. Any league that does not allow jewelry does not allow those. Neither Fed nor LL allows them. A lot of umpires choose not to see them though which is a whole different topic.If the kid has a mow-hawk and feathered earrings too let it slide. Kidding Aside Maybe they need to add in a "1 per player rule" where a player is allowed 1 necklace on the field,

[ALStripes17]

Or how about the 'powers that be' quit making rules and just let the kids play.

Soon they'll outlaw dirt due to health reasons.

[Rulekeep]

Why do this?

What is so great about those dumb necklaces that a rule needs to be changed to allow them??

They're cool. I wear one. They're allowed by most athletic leagues so players wear them because other jewelry is banned. Most baseball leagues don't allow them but I bet those Dixie kids are happy now.

So what happens when a kid goes all Mr. T now with twenty gold chains around their neck, but custom adds the break-off plastic connectors to them? Technically legal, correct?

And they aren't allowed by most. Any league that does not allow jewelry does not allow those. Neither Fed nor LL allows them. A lot of umpires choose not to see them though which is a whole different topic.If the kid has a mow-hawk and feathered earrings too let it slide. Kidding Aside Maybe they need to add in a "1 per player rule" where a player is allowed 1 necklace on the field, Since when have mo-hawks and fo-hawks been banned? *pulls cap on a little tighter*

[BaltimoreUmpire]

Why do this?

What is so great about those dumb necklaces that a rule needs to be changed to allow them??

They're cool. I wear one. They're allowed by most athletic leagues so players wear them because other jewelry is banned. Most baseball leagues don't allow them but I bet those Dixie kids are happy now.

So what happens when a kid goes all Mr. T now with twenty gold chains around their neck, but custom adds the break-off plastic connectors to them? Technically legal, correct?

And they aren't allowed by most. Any league that does not allow jewelry does not allow those. Neither Fed nor LL allows them. A lot of umpires choose not to see them though which is a whole different topic.If the kid has a mow-hawk and feathered earrings too let it slide. Kidding Aside Maybe they need to add in a "1 per player rule" where a player is allowed 1 necklace on the field,Since when have mo-hawks and fo-hawks been banned? *pulls cap on a little tighter*Their not it was Mr. T joke the guy I replied to asked "what happens if a kid goes all Mr. T with 20 gold necklaces and custom adds the break aways"

[JHSump]

Seems similar to asking F2 if he's wearing a cup. Not my job. Necklaces aren't 'equipment' and shouldn't be treated as such, IMO.

Legally equipped

Exchange lineups

Ground Rules

Sportsmanship

If you make em yank em, whose to say one doesnt get changed after the check? I was this kinda devious lad that'd do it just cos I could get away with it.

@JHSump, maybe you include the necklaces as an aside @ the plate meeting. Once HCs confirm it, your job is done. Let me know what you decide to do.

So, @Jocko we had the "credentials meeting" today. At this meeting I can address all the managers, and I am asked to discuss rules that are important (e.g., approved bats). I brought up the breakaway necklaces, telling them the rule on jewelry had changed. I explained that they should check with their players that their necklaces are indeed breakaway. And, I explained that at the plate meeting we will ask if their players are properly and legally equipped, and this question, in part, is about the necklaces. Finally, I explained that the jewelry rule is about safety, and when they answer "yes" to our question, they are taking responsibility for injuries caused by necklaces that are not breakaway.

[cyclonehokiece]

Seems similar to asking F2 if he's wearing a cup. Not my job. Necklaces aren't 'equipment' and shouldn't be treated as such, IMO.

Legally equipped

Exchange lineups

Ground Rules

Sportsmanship

If you make em yank em, whose to say one doesnt get changed after the check? I was this kinda devious lad that'd do it just cos I could get away with it.

@JHSump, maybe you include the necklaces as an aside @ the plate meeting. Once HCs confirm it, your job is done. Let me know what you decide to do.

So, @Jocko we had the "credentials meeting" today. At this meeting I can address all the managers, and I am asked to discuss rules that are important (e.g., approved bats). I brought up the breakaway necklaces, telling them the rule on jewelry had changed. I explained that they should check with their players that their necklaces are indeed breakaway. And, I explained that at the plate meeting we will ask if their players are properly and legally equipped, and this question, in part, is about the necklaces. Finally, I explained that the jewelry rule is about safety, and when they answer "yes" to our question, they are taking responsibility for injuries caused by necklaces that are not breakaway.

How did it end up @JHSump? Any issues with the jewelry rule?

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