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In my short career I hadnt seen anyone thrown out at first on a base hit to right field, really not even many attempts.

Today in 18u wood bat tourney full of traveling prospect teams I had a kid thrown out from right field. I was just talking about it the next game to the first base coach, then booom it happens again. So thats great twiced in one day. But the fun wasnt over, in this same game it happens Two more times! Two was the same kid, and he wasnt loafing. He busted his tail the second time and if he hadnt slid head first probably would of beat it out.

Crazy how i havent seen it in 5 years them it happens 4 times in one day!

Is their a correct mechanic as far as positioning for setting up on a throw from right field to first?

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4 times in a 18u game with prospects, I would not have expected it. I may be wrong but I think that is one of the things that goes against the unwriiten code of players, but anyhow. Maybe they were trying to showcase their arms.

You can tell when there is a chance it could happen due to a hard hit ball so I just try to keep it in the back of my mind and do my normal pivot ( hustle ) and when I turn I am prepared to make a call if needed. It usually gets guys when it catches them loafing or unexpectedly. Personally, I have never seen it happen except when there are no runners so I am talking about being in the A pos.

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I see it every week. From "A", you gotta BUST A$$, get inside, find the ball and read the play. Your partner should let you know if it's caught or not. If it's down, find it, read it, and react. You gotta hustle and be prepared. If you get caught outside on a laser 1 hopper to F9, it happens, get the best position you can and hope F3 catches it. If F3 misses and B1 advances, you're screwed. You'll never get the angle to see the play at 2b and most likely HP is ill prepared as well. Hustle Hustle Hustle.

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Also BOLO for F8 with a very good arm. I've had em thrown out from shallow center.

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I would send to the Guiness Book of World Records. Has to be a record for that level (provided these are boys and not girls where its common practice.

Or small diamond ball.

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I think that is one of the things that goes against the unwriiten code of players, but anyhow. Maybe they were trying to showcase their arms.

I've been around the game a long time and I have never heard anything about this being against some unwritten code.

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I think that is one of the things that goes against the unwriiten code of players, but anyhow. Maybe they were trying to showcase their arms.

I've been around the game a long time and I have never heard anything about this being against some unwritten code.

Agree -- if you don't want to be embarassed by being throw out, then hustle to first instead of being impressed that you got it into the OF . . . (seems very rare that someone is actually thrown out 9-3 without lollygagging; yes, I know it's possible, but I don't recall seeing it withuot BR slowing down)

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i've never seen it at that level of ball. F9 must be up and the hit has to be a shot. i see it often in Pony. i read the situation and treat it like 2B coming over and giving you pressure. just don't get hit by the throw. most of the time you won't have to take the play in foul territory. i'm not a big fan of pivoting over the path of the thrown ball. if F3 boots it and R1 goes for second he's either going to get hung out big or make it safely to second.

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I think that is one of the things that goes against the unwriiten code of players, but anyhow. Maybe they were trying to showcase their arms.

I've been around the game a long time and I have never heard anything about this being against some unwritten code.

I know I read it somewhere but that doesn't mean it's was a credible statement. I thought it was dumb when I read it but then again a lot of those unwritten rules are.

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I think that is one of the things that goes against the unwriiten code of players, but anyhow. Maybe they were trying to showcase their arms.

I've been around the game a long time and I have never heard anything about this being against some unwritten code.

I know I read it somewhere but that doesn't mean it's was a credible statement. I thought it was dumb when I read it but then again a lot of those unwritten rules are.

I was taught when I played as an outfielder to never throw to first unless a clear mistake is made by the batter runner or they are clearly show boating... I remember one time I was playing Right Field and a liner quick hopped into my glove... I strongly considered going to 1st, but just threw it in to my cut off... After the half inning, my coach pulled me aside and told me to never even consider going to 1st and to always just get it in to the cutoff man. He said it was just a bad thing to do (i.e unwritten rule) and could start things we don't want started (i.e baseball in my ear).

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I think that is one of the things that goes against the unwriiten code of players, but anyhow. Maybe they were trying to showcase their arms.

I've been around the game a long time and I have never heard anything about this being against some unwritten code.

I know I read it somewhere but that doesn't mean it's was a credible statement. I thought it was dumb when I read it but then again a lot of those unwritten rules are.

I was taught when I played as an outfielder to never throw to first unless a clear mistake is made by the batter runner or they are clearly show boating... I remember one time I was playing Right Field and a liner quick hopped into my glove... I strongly considered going to 1st, but just threw it in to my cut off... After the half inning, my coach pulled me aside and told me to never even consider going to 1st and to always just get it in to the cutoff man. He said it was just a bad thing to do (i.e unwritten rule) and could start things we don't want started (i.e baseball in my ear).

You needed a better coach.

I've seen a bunch of throwouts at 1B (as have others here) and never any consequence to anyone but the B-R being berated by his coach for not hustling and zinged by teammates for having it happen to him.

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Two years ago in a school ball tourney, there was a hard hit liner to CF. My CF played it on the one hop and threw a runner out at 1B by a good 2-3 steps.

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In softball this is a frequent situation and they teach U1 to drop back and prepare for the call at the edge of the 1b coaches box. PU moves toward the mound in preparation of a call at 2b

I suppose what you could have done was called in your partner between innings and make an adjustment that with no one on the bases he follows the BR up the line 1/2 way to cover the call at 1st.

Yute ball is a game of adjustments, reading and anticipating plays that you might not see as the kids get older.. So if you have the outfield shallow, a speedster at bat maybe add a simple sign point to F9 then 1b to employ it.

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Two years ago in a school ball tourney, there was a hard hit liner to CF. My CF played it on the one hop and threw a runner out at 1B by a good 2-3 steps.

I've seen it work a few times. Not often, but when it does it's a whacker.
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It was either late last year or early this year where F9 threw out B/R @ first in a MLB game (although I think it was the pitcher that got thrown out).

What seems to be popular this year is the outfielder back-picking the B/R as he rounds first. I was BU during this variation twice in a varsity tournament game earlier this year. Kid gets a base hit to left. F7 fields the ball and makes a nice, lazy throw to F6 near his position at SS. While the throw is coming in to F6, F3 is walking toward the mound leaving first base unattended. As soon as F6 receives the ball, he turns and fires to first at about the same time as B/R is rounding first. F2, who has followed B/R up the line, sneaks in behind B/R and receives the throw at first. B/R was out the first time, and unbelievably, a couple innings later, another B/R from the same team was almost picked with the same move.

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Happened in a college game I was working this year.

Now, it *almost* started something because someone sait "that's a little league play" and the catcher took exception but after I explained that the speaker meant that he hadn't seen it since little league all calmed down. The speaker then turned to someone else and used the words I did so I know I was right on this.

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You see the 9-3 play all the time on the 60' field. You need to be able to read it right away, then move in and to your left. Watch F3's eyes, and that will tell you where the ball is. Bullets to the outfield can come back to a base very quickly, and you may not have time to come in, pivot, and see a play. Always have plan B in you back pocket. Plus, your PU should be reading, and reacting to what you're doing.

Also, before each batter, look to where your outfielders are playing. Good baserunners do this, to know when to run, and so should umpires.

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