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  1. In response to @Biscuit .....
  2. I'm assuming this discussion is again aimed more at the mobile version than the browser one? Because I use the Adblock Plus add-on with Firefox (v 83.0), and the only ad I've seen lately is the one Aging used as an example.
  3. Thank you for the specific cite. I should probably remember that notation, as a partner and I invoked it in '19 to eject around 30 players total, as documented elsewhere on this forum. 3-3-1p should actually be burned into my memory, if not the basis for a future tattoo. (Sorry, I don't save my rulebooks, year-on-year - they keep printing new ones, and I keep taking 'em. This years might be in the trunk of my car; might not.) I did finally go back, and re-read all the words thrown down on this thread. My personal take for MC v fighting is that MC is used/invoked for things that are
  4. Maybe I didn't read everything through in each post (but that hasn't stopped me before from speaking up, so.....) Why in God's name is malicious contact coming up so much as I scroll down the screen? There's already a rule that covers tossing both players for what they're doing. I don't know the number, and I'm not getting up to find my stupid book now, but both players are leaving their "position" for the purpose of a confrontation. Turns out, THIS confrontation involves throwing hands. So ..... boom. EJ both. Did they get the smack-talker out? No. Then no out is called.
  5. I know this is already an "old" post, but in the interest of full disclosure - and to narc myself out - I will say that I ended up violating my own edict. Two Sundays ago, there was a guy that ran his mouth the whole time. I really didn't care, because it just washed over me, and it was entertaining - mostly talking up players on one team, giving fake stats, etc. But about three innings in, in the middle of a throw to first off a squibber, an air horn blasted out. And I already get cheese about players that like to yell things at those "opportune" moments - I don't say anything, or san
  6. I did, what feels like a lifetime ago. Went to the Evans school in '08. Came back to my job, and just working for different umpire orgs since. No college yet, although I haven't really put in the hard yards for it.
  7. Years ago, in a Pony game, I did just this. (it was little dudes, like Mustang level.) A kid had already tossed the back to the backstop once, and then made me hop over it as it flew by, when I was clearing the plate after a batted ball. Both times, I'd spoken to the coach, and said that he HAD to get control of that bat. Finally, on his third at-bat, he bounced it off the F2s shinguards, and I decided that was enough. I restricted him to the dugout. The other coach wanted an out - "Can we get an out there?"; having always been a natural smart-ass, I said "Did you get him out at fir
  8. Are you talking mobile version, or web page? If you're old-fashioned like me, and get on the site via computer, you can just click the circle with the talk balloons next to the subject in question, and it marks everything as read. And that still works after UIC said he rolled things out.
  9. Personally, I'd wait for between innings. You can pretend to be looking at a lineup change, or some other bullcrap reason. But even if there's not subterfuge, it's at least a more discreet moment. Part of the whole kabuki we do is "don't show me up" - in both directions. To me, if you go in the middle of all that, you're kind of "calling him out" for everyone to know. Which then lets the magpies on the wire chirp more. (Also, if you do it in the middle, the team/coach getting crushed has their pride further insulted, and they bizarrely take it out on *you*. I know, that sounds weird, bu
  10. What you do differently: Don't talk to the fence. If there's an issue - and I'm not completely convinced there's one here - you'd talk to the coaches. To the home coach: you *might* say something about "how about calling off the dogs, skip?", but you could certainly say "hey skip, you're starting to raise a lot of bad feelings here, and it might lead to some on-field issues." To the away coach: "you need to get your fans under some kind of control here." But talking to the fans directly is just gonna lead to more bad things than good, in general.
  11. Seriously, are we not doing "phrasing" any more??
  12. I've been asked that question exactly once, that I can remember, over the years. And it was a coach at a plate meeting in a rec-ball or travel-ball game, or something along that level. It was along the lines of "what's your zone like?" A) Not wanting to have that conversation, so it could get shoved up my ass during the game by either dugout, and B) being a wise-ass as a general rule, my reply: "Well, we'll all find out in about five minutes, won't we?"
  13. Yes - it's ALWAYS appropriate to tell a coach to STFU. ....... Oh. Wait. That's not what you were asking, is it? In seriousness, I love the idea: "I've ruled [X]. You protesting that? No? Moving on, then." I had a BOO about a year and a half ago, and I ruled it wrong, as I found out later. Apparently, though, I was convincing enough in my handling that the coach didn't have an issue - or at least, not even enough of one to even speak to my partner about it. (In this case, the phrase "better lucky than good" was in play.)
  14. Wait, what? "Shall" be navy? Here in South Tejas, I've been in two different chapters in '19 and (sort of) '20, and we were black in both, except as it gets hot(ter), where we do some light blue shade. Am I missing something now?
  15. You STILL on about the Navy blue thing??? You won, man - not only is navy gone, but - God give me strength - light blue (color of softball) is up, too.
  16. The sentence-fragment in red is the key to this whole play. Both umpires have their responsibilities, and if one guy makes a ruling, it's been covered. If your partner has ruled "that's nothing" and you try the "if you see something, say something" deal, a) you're going to have an on-field SH*# storm, and b) you're a Bad Partner. I say the latter, because you're stepping on his .... well ..... groin. AND because, depending on how savvy the coach is, he's gonna KNOW it was your partner's call, and he's be All Over him. On the other hand, if he HADN'T ruled something, then by all me
  17. To be overly pompous, since I'm bored ..... I concur. @SeeingEyeDog, I get what you're saying - we're not showing them up so much. And it to me, it's not even a matter of who brought what up first. But remember how I phased it: "because we don't let THEM do it, WE shouldn't do it, either." If they do it - they get run, or at least have started the journey. But then it would be pretty dickish of me to pull a "do as I say, not as I do" thing on them, so that's why that's taught.
  18. I might be the only one that will nitpick this, but: I wouldn't point at marks or anything. I was taught not to let coaches "demonstrate" or otherwise point stuff out - they're just showing you up, playing to the crowd (which may just be the other participants). And because we don't let THEM do it, WE shouldn't do it, either. "Missed the plate, Skip" is all I'd say.
  19. Bench minor. 2 min penalty. Possibly misconduct penalties, too. Were I on my FB page, I would then try to convince you and others that you should love hockey. But I've just given up. I might umpire, and I played baseball, and have followed the Os since I was a kid, and I can STILL visualize walking through the portal to get to our seats at my first ever MLB game [mumble] years ago. But I LOVE hockey, and believe it's the best sport.
  20. Don't forget - the other sports have *other* penalties/punishments that fall short of ejection. Baseball doesn't.
  21. All I can say is: I wish more coaches in that age bracket would then be like you and Rich, if you guys really do like you say online. Because even if I'm not supposed to "rabbit ears" when I'm out there, I'm not deaf, either, and I can hear what "coaches" tell their players. The things/positions I'm talking about are not uncommon out here in the wild.
  22. I did play the game, yes. Were YOU ever ten years old, or did you just emerge, crusty and obstinate, from the spring waters of upstate New York? Kids have plenty of time to turn into dicks. Don't speed up the process.
  23. Whatever you need to get through the day, man. My second paragraph stands as written.
  24. So, just to be clear: there's a not-insignificant set of us here okay with teaching nine year olds to throw baseballs at other kids? I mean, we've all seen 10U ball before, right? Where half the players *might* know what the F*#K they're doing HALF the time, and there's a general sense of obliviousness in the air? Take my question however you like, and how you feel about the issue is up to you. I'm just stripping it down to what it is, without the "well, that's on the runner" or "I got hurt by A Bad Person once, so imma hurt back" or whatever else got thrown in there.
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