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FED Sub rules: No substitutes left on bench and then an injury
BDad replied to Tog Gee's question in Ask the Umpire
With Little League mandatory play rules (similar but not exactly like your sub rules), the opposing manager would select a player previously in the lineup to replace the injured player. Since you're already modifying HS rules, I suppose you could choose to adopt this approach. Rule 3.03 NOTE 3: If during a game either team is unable to place nine (9) players on the field due to illness, injury, ejection, or inability to make a legal substitution, the opposing manager shall select a player previously used in the line-up to re-enter the game, but only if use of all eligible players has exhausted the roster. A player ejected from the game is not eligible for re-entry. -
"These kids can't hit it that hard!"
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Thanks! Yep, playing another game right after, so I got the can't pitch in 2 games same day. Trying to get agreement on everything before the plate meeting so we just have to review. Curious about your interp of players not previously at the suspended game. I would have thought it's the same as a player arriving to a game late--they can be added as available subs (not using continuous batting order). And if all available subs are locked into the lineup and a starter is missing in the resumed game, we go to the opposing manager chooses which person on the bench can replace the missing starter (similar to an injury or ejection situation).
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TLDR; in LL Majors Baseball, can a pitcher removed from a game suspended for darkness re-enter when the game resumes on another day as long as they have met mandatory days of rest? LL Majors Baseball rules. I was PU for a game suspended for darkness, trying to get a read on LL rules for pitcher eligibility when the game resumes today. The game was suspended in the top of the 5th inning, but the score was tied after 4 innings so we continue the game where it left off. All good there. Rule 4.12 addresses suspended games. Pitchers of record may continue in the resumed game as long as they have met minimum days of rest. Everything else about the lineups is governed by substitution and mandatory play rules in Rule 3.03. I interpret that to mean that pitchers previously removed from the suspended game may not re-enter the resumed game today even if they have met minimum days of rest; only the pitchers of record at the time the game was suspended may continue. In Regulation VI(k) NOTE 3, it confirms that the pitchers of record may continue if they have met minimum days of rest. Three examples appear just below the note, which I interpret to apply to the pitchers of record at the time the game was suspended. One of the managers is arguing that the examples below NOTE 3 apply to all pitchers in the suspended game, i.e. pitchers already removed from the game are eligible to re-enter when the game resumes if they have met required days of rest. For all you LL rule experts out there, what's your take on this interpretation?
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Thanks for the feedback! Was thinking I missed 7.08(h) passing the runner. And there would have been a fit thrown..."Sorry, just a triple. You get what you get and you don't get upset." Ha. Hadn't thought of abandonment. @DevildogUmp you would call R1 out for abandonment because he didn't reach HP but wait for the appeal if he reached HP but did not touch it? I always thought 7.08(a)(2) meant giving up near first base because of the way the rule is worded (and described in the RIM comments), but you seem to be interpreting it as anywhere on the base paths after touching 1B. In LL rules, when is it considered abandonment? On a U3K, it's not until entering dead ball area or the dugout per 6.05(b)A.R. Edit: Found my own answer in the RIM the following comment for 7.08(a)(2): "When to call the runner out? Whenever they obviously "gives up" and heads toward their dugout or, at the end of an inning, towards their defensive position, but wait until the runner is on foul ground or well into the outfield grass before you declare an out."
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I feel like I know this but I'm overthinking it... LL Majors rules. R1, R2, R3 less than two out. Batter hits HR. R2 and R3 score legally. R1 touches 3B legally but stops halfway up 3BL to celebrate with teammates coming out of the 3B dugout and never reaches HP. BR touches HP legally. I was PU and made no call, thinking I was waiting for an appeal for R1 not touching HP (the appeal never came). After the game I talked myself into thinking I should have called BR out for passing R1. What do you have?
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More fun with player safety...unsafe field conditions...
BDad replied to SeeingEyeDog's topic in Situations
LL Rule 3.10 (a) The managers of both teams shall agree on the fitness of the playing field before the game starts... (b) The Umpire-in-Chief shall be the sole judge as to whether and when paly shall be suspended during a game because of...unfit condition of the playing field... LL Rule 4.01(d). As soon as the home team's batting order is handed to the Umpire-in-Chief, the umpires are in charge of the playing field and from that moment shall have sole authority to determine when a game shall be called, halted, or resumed on account of weather or the condition of the playing field. So in LL it seems like the umpire takes control when the game starts. I've had rainy days where the coaches are raking the Field Dry like crazy in the rain and I'll call it after one batter if it's just ridiculous. YMMV. -
You mean like in the Olympics? 😜
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Runner not returning to base before start of pitch (LL)
BDad replied to BDad's topic in Youth Recreation Ball
These are helpful, thanks! Let the pitch happen and then judge the runner left early. So only really matters if the ball is put in play, or a steal attempt, or whatever. Fall ball with new kids (and coaches) moving up, so there's some adjusting. Majors level in spring, that kid's getting picked off all day. Yeah, I basically did this...told him to get on the base before the pitcher starts pitching. And mentioned it to the coach between innings. Which led to "well what's the penalty for that". -
Runner not returning to base before start of pitch (LL)
BDad posted a topic in Youth Recreation Ball
LL Majors. R1, R2. R1's secondary lead after pitch is probably 20 feet off the base, dancing around, etc. DHC tells F2 to throw back to F1 and ignore R1 because they have R2. F1 receives the ball, takes his position, and starts his pitching motion--R1 is still dancing around. What do you have? Rule 7.13 says "When a pitcher is in contact with the pitcher's plate and in possession of the ball and the catcher is in the catcher's box ready to receive delivery of the ball, base runners shall not leave their bases until the ball has been delivered and has reached the batter." We usually interpret this with respect to a runner "leaving early" during a pitch. What if the runner never returned to the base? -
I agree with above comments about setting boundaries that work for you while you learn about the league's expectations. I stayed with my league after my son aged out because I like the people and the league philosophy of serving kids and their families. As UIC, I do umpire (because I love it) and I also train and assign. My son will be a HS senior this fall, so I would like to do less admin work (assigning, covering holes) so I can umpire and train (the things I really like) while enjoying his "last year at home". I'm working with my league to figure out whether that means I stay on the Board or rotate off. Do what works for you and focus on the things that you will feel personally rewarded for. LL needs volunteers, some leagues really do focus on creating opportunities for kids who wouldn't otherwise have them, and the right fit (for you and the league) will be greatly appreciated by the league and will be fulfilling for you to support kids' dreams. Sorry if too sappy, but my teacher personality gets a lot of enjoyment out of helping kids smile and build confidence in their abilities.
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In our LL District Tournament we've mostly been wearing powder blue. Today for the Majors championship game, PU decided we should wear black. As we're walking onto the field, one of the coaches says to me, "You're wearing black today. Guess we can't call you 'blue'. Now what are we gonna call you?" Without hesitation I said, "Guess you're gonna have to learn our names, [called him by name]." 😁
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I don't see that language in the 2023 RIM for Rule 6.05j. The emphasis is on quality throw to 1B, and everything is about throw to 1B and not what happens next.
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https://www.mlb.com/news/lourdes-gurriel-jr-makes-sandcastle-during-d-backs-game Oh wait, you meant *kids* were doing this during baseball games... 🤣