controversy

[dumbdumb]

in the second game mentioned, why did the fielding team let the other hitting team get the bases loaded to start with

https://brobible.com/sports/article/nysphsaa-high-school-baseball-championship-fox-lane-horseheads-foul-ball/. click on pennsylvania one in article

https://x.com/CrossingBroad/status/1934068485585346753/video/1 j

butt the j at the end to get video

or this one-- ya think the catcher knew, but i am no mind reader

https://sports.yahoo.com/article/pa-state-high-school-baseball-220002893.html

[The Man in Blue]

Couldn't manage to find a non-micro-blog (I'm changing my terminology, as those platforms are neither social nor media) version of the video.  Youtube had 3 or 4 videos, but they are all the same lame 2-minute video with a clown over the top (presumably because he stole somebody else's content) and an AI generated voice.

I will pull this quote out from the Yahoo article though:

However, the call has made national news as baseball fans near and far debate the call, with some saying it’s a legit decision and others saying there’s no way anybody should’ve called it with a state championship on the line.

"We just want it called right/by the book!"  "Boo, what are you doing calling it by the book!  Let the kids play!" Sorry, this hypocritical line is the one that is sticking in my craw lately.  Just cross the line and admit you don't want it called correctly, you want it called your way.  You don't want an umpire, you want Burger King service (have it your way!).

Maybe we need to go back to the day when we were arbiters who only ruled when they didn't agree.

 

I did find this gem of a brawl breaking out at a 10u LL game though:

 

[grayhawk]

I had commented on a couple of these, with one particular casual fan posting that I, and 3 other umpires are just as trash as the umpire that called the balk. At that point, I had to bring out this modified movie quote. Anyone besides @Velho know where it's from?

What did I expect?
Thank you for the rules lesson?
Marry my daughter?
I've got to remember these are simple fans.
These are people of the bleachers.
The common clay of the upper deck.
You know.....Morons.

[Velho]

5 hours ago, dumbdumb said:

https://brobible.com/sports/article/nysphsaa-high-school-baseball-championship-fox-lane-horseheads-foul-ball/.

 

 

5 hours ago, dumbdumb said:

https://sports.yahoo.com/article/pa-state-high-school-baseball-220002893.html

 

 

[maven]

9 minutes ago, grayhawk said:

I had commented on a couple of these, with one particular casual fan posting that I, and 3 other umpires are just as trash as the umpire that called the balk. At that point, I had to bring out this modified movie quote. Anyone besides @Velho know where it's from?

What did I expect?
Thank you for the rules lesson?
Marry my daughter?
I've got to remember these are simple fans.
These are people of the bleachers.
The common clay of the upper deck.
You know.....Morons.

Well, Gene, I recognize the last 3 lines, if they've been adapted to baseball from a context farther west....

[The Man in Blue]

5 hours ago, grayhawk said:

I had commented on a couple of these, with one particular casual fan posting that I, and 3 other umpires are just as trash as the umpire that called the balk. At that point, I had to bring out this modified movie quote. Anyone besides @Velho know where it's from?

What did I expect?
Thank you for the rules lesson?
Marry my daughter?
I've got to remember these are simple fans.
These are people of the bleachers.
The common clay of the upper deck.
You know.....Morons.

I think I know … but I’m gonna need a $#!+load of dimes to get there.

[grayhawk]

For the folks wondering what we're talking about:

 

[BLWizzRanger]

6 hours ago, grayhawk said:

For the folks wondering what we're talking about:

 

[Richvee]

11 hours ago, Velho said:

 

 

 

 

That’s the definitive view of the balk. How U2 wasn’t all over this is the question. (Let alone didn't even echo PU)

[The Man in Blue]

40 minutes ago, BLWizzRanger said:

 

Oooh!  I got that one, too!

[BLWizzRanger]

Ok, here is my naive opinion on this balk.  The PU saw shoulder movement where he thought the pitcher was moving to become set - start/stop balk. He can't see the back leg.  (seen in the video of the OP's link).  The 2U saw the 'settling' or 'shifting' or adjustment of the leg and didn't think is was a movement that warranted a balk call. (seen from the centerfield view video).

Since it was the first thing I saw, it was the shoulder turn that I first saw and didn't see the leg twitch until reading about it and seeing the centerfield view.

In the initial setup, how often do you see the back foot grinding into the plate (front of) while getting signals with no movement of the shoulders or shifting of the weight back to the set position?