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Regarding a dodge by a batter-runner overrunning but missing first base and an appeal during unrelaxed action


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In this play, BR Jesus Aguilar avoids a tag by Freddy Freeman then reaches but misses first base.  The commentator says "Aguilar broke toward second" but I don't see that in the video.  Freeman tagged Aguilar and he was immediately punched out.

  • Did Aguilar make a move toward second base, making this an ordinary tag out?  If so, what here is interpreted as a move toward second and what is the rule/guideline for that?
  • If not, was this an appeal for missed base? Can such an appeal happen during unrelaxed action?
  • If not, was this the wrong call?

See also OBR 5.09(c)(3).

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You have provided your own citation. 5.09 (4) EXCEPTION... a batter-runner cannot be tagged out after overrunning or oversliding first base if he immediately returns to the base.

It's the umpire's judgement. What did the runner do after he acquired first base? Did he come to a stop and hold the bag? Did he fall down? Did he make himself a ham sandwich? If in the judgement of the umpire, the runner does not immediately return to the base and a tag is applied before he re-acquires the base, we have an out. If he turns to the left and immediately comes back, he is safe. If he turns right and immediately comes back, he is safe.

Maybe I am missing something in that video but...I have a missed tag at 1B, I have the runner never acquiring 1B and then a tag of the runner. I have U1 making the correct call here...an out.

~Dawg

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4 minutes ago, SeeingEyeDog said:

I have a missed tag at 1B, I have the runner never acquiring 1B and then a tag of the runner. I have U1 making the correct call here...an out.

I think I agree.  Just one thing bugs me--at all other bases on tag plays, if a runner is immediately attempting to return to a missed base during unrelaxed action, an appeal can't be made; the runner must be tagged off the base to be put out.  But perhaps that doesn't apply to the BR at first base, though I am just guessing and can't remember where I read the full nuances of unrelaxed action appeals.  Do you know where I could find such case notes or official interpretations on unrelaxed action missed-base appeals?

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56 minutes ago, SeeingEyeDog said:

Maybe I am missing something in that video but...I have a missed tag at 1B, I have the runner never acquiring 1B and then a tag of the runner. I have U1 making the correct call here...an out.

~Dawg

 

This.  The runner never touched first.  More quality broadcasting.  🙄

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12 hours ago, The Man in Blue said:

 

This.  The runner never touched first.  More quality broadcasting.  🙄

I think at the time there was some question as to the signaling and the call. MLB had changed calling safe on a runner passing 1B without touching it to no signal. So the safe call was on the no tag. I think the tag of the returning runner was considered an appeal out since Aguilar did not attempt 2B and could noy be tagged out for overrunning.

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5 minutes ago, ErichKeane said:

This is 'out on appeal', right?  So if this was 3rd out, runs could score, and accidental tagging of 1B by F3 isn't an out?

IF it was an appeal (and probably even if it wasn't -- I didn't watch the video), the BR is out before reaching first so no runs score.

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8 minutes ago, noumpere said:

IF it was an appeal (and probably even if it wasn't -- I didn't watch the video), the BR is out before reaching first so no runs score.

Ah, of course :) Thanks for the correction!

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