Batting out of order

[Guest Cam]

In the last inning of our game the other night (10U Girls LL) batters 7, 8, and 9 were due up.  

Instead, we returned to the top of our line up and batter 1 walked.  Batter 2 in our line up came up and had a 1-1 count before the error was realized.

What is the ruling?

[LRZ]

May we assume this is softball? The LL RIM says this, about 6.07(c) in both baseball and softball: "When the improper batter becomes a runner, or is put out, and a pitch is made to the next batter of either team before an appeal is made, the improper batter thereby becomes the proper batter, and the results of such time at bat become legal."

The "Instructor's Comment" adds, "Appeal must be made before the next pitch, play or attempted play. Baseball and Softball treat this element differently. In Baseball, a fake throw is NOT considered an attempted play. However, in Softball, if the pitcher is in the eight-foot circle, a fake throw IS considered an attempted play for consideration of the circle rule."

Consequently, the ruling is "appeal denied," batter 1 at first, batter 2 at bat with a 1-1 count.

[Guest Cam]

Yes this was softball. Thank you.

[Vegas_Ump]

Look at it this way:  B1 was an improper batter who got on.  B2 took one or more pitches.  This means the actions of B1 were legalized.  So who's the proper batter?  The one who follows B1!  I.e., B2!  She's still up, so she's fine.

Boo on the defense for not catching this.

Mike

Las Vegas

[noumpere]

28 minutes ago, Vegas_Ump said:

 

Boo on the defense

 

No, the BOO was on the offense.  ;)

[Jimurray]

41 minutes ago, noumpere said:

No, the BOO was on the offense. 

But he said "Boo"

[Guest Cam]

Thanks for the answers.  

[Velho]

All the above is correct.

17 hours ago, Guest Cam said:

In the last inning of our game the other night (10U Girls LL) batters 7, 8, and 9 were due up.  

Instead, we returned to the top of our line up

I have to ask: how did the offense miss 3 batters? One I can understand. But 4 different batters didn't figure out something was off?

[boyinr]

3 minutes ago, Velho said:

All the above is correct.

I have to ask: how did the offense miss 3 batters? One I can understand. But 4 different batters didn't figure out something was off?

Sounds like you have never been in the dugout of a 10U softball team.  It can be like herding snakes with a stick some days.  My guess is that the bottom third of the order all went to the restroom together. Lol. BTW I loved every second I coached those girls. They taught me a lot. 

[Guest Cam]

8 hours ago, Velho said:

All the above is correct.

I have to ask: how did the offense miss 3 batters? One I can understand. But 4 different batters didn't figure out something was off?

 

It's an "all-star" team made up mostly of 8-9 year olds from a few different towns.  So they've only played two games together.  It was 100% my error.    

[Velho]

1 hour ago, Guest Cam said:

It's an "all-star" team made up mostly of 8-9 year olds from a few different towns.  So they've only played two games together.  It was 100% my error. 

👍All good. Was simply curious. Thanks for being interested in getting it right / understanding the rules.

[The Man in Blue]

12 hours ago, boyinr said:

Sounds like you have never been in the dugout of a 10U softball team.  It can be like herding snakes with a stick some days.  My guess is that the bottom third of the order all went to the restroom together. Lol. BTW I loved every second I coached those girls. They taught me a lot. 

 

More like herding kittens with a leaf blower.

 

4 hours ago, Guest Cam said:

 

It's an "all-star" team made up mostly of 8-9 year olds from a few different towns.  So they've only played two games together.  It was 100% my error.    

I can totally see this ...

"But Coach, you told me to bat after Suzy and I don't know who Suzy is, so I just batted after MaryKate like I usually do."