Suicide Squeeze Scores Two

[BrianC14]

7 hours ago, Thunderheads said:

A BrianC14 sighting!!  YES!!!  

 

[The Man in Blue]

Reviving this because I cannot find another thread ... although I thought one existed.

I could have sworn there was a recent conversation on here with an interp or case play that called for this play to be addressed (e.g., ejections).  Am I imagining that?

Bringing this up because the play was recently used in an NFHS softball state championship ... and has caused an uproar on one of the softball sites I frequent.

[lawump]

14 hours ago, The Man in Blue said:

Reviving this because I cannot find another thread ... although I thought one existed.

I could have sworn there was a recent conversation on here with an interp or case play that called for this play to be addressed (e.g., ejections).  Am I imagining that?

Bringing this up because the play was recently used in an NFHS softball state championship ... and has caused an uproar on one of the softball sites I frequent.

I believe I posted (once upon a time) that there is an edict from the South Carolina High School League that if a team gets caught doing this, the head coach and the runner are ejected (and will face all of the post-game discipline normally associated with being ejected for unsporting behavior).  Again, this is not a rule, it was an edict issued in approximately 2015 by the SCHSL Office.  Amazingly, the use of this tactic suddenly dropped to almost non-existent levels.

[BigBlue4u]

On 3/25/2017 at 5:05 PM, Mad Mike said:

 

Also, as a point of discussion, is there any reason this would not be an appeal play, i.e. could this be considered abandonment of running the bases as it is obviously designed to clearly and intentionally alter the base path to gain an advantage? (I have my opinion(s) on how I would rule on this, but would like to hear from my fellow umpires.)

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My state will be distributing  "Standards of Conduct," for 2023.  This type of conduct is specifically mentioned.  The result of this or any other blatant violation of the rules:  Ejection. 

[Jay R.]

17 hours ago, The Man in Blue said:

Reviving this because I cannot find another thread ... although I thought one existed.

I could have sworn there was a recent conversation on here with an interp or case play that called for this play to be addressed (e.g., ejections).  Am I imagining that?

Bringing this up because the play was recently used in an NFHS softball state championship ... and has caused an uproar on one of the softball sites I frequent.

Earlier this summer someone asked if there was a rule against blatant/intentional missing of the bases.

 

[Velho]

1 hour ago, BigBlue4u said:

My state will be distributing  "Standards of Conduct," for 2023.  This type of conduct is specifically mentioned.  The result of this or any other blatant violation of the rules:  Ejection. 

What state BigBlue?

[Vegas_Ump]

On 3/25/2017 at 7:32 PM, maven said:

Because it is running bases in the proper order (counter-clockwise), it's a common though illegal tactic and so not a travesty, and though appealable not therefore a violation of the unsporting rule (3-3-1f), which are offenses unrelated to play.

The rules address missed bases, whether the miss is intentional or accidental. We have no authority to make up our own penalties, however offended our sense of propriety.

Also, the defense has the right to appeal the missed base.  They have to pay attention too!  (The umpire is NOT the 10th defensive player!)

Mike

Las Vegas