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On ‎6‎/‎22‎/‎2016 at 9:06 AM, Man_In_Black said:

The baserunning couldn't have been that bad if he was able to legally avoid the tag when he was as good as picked.

By the same logic, you could have refused to reward poor defense by F3 for being unable to apply a tag on a baserunner who, by all rights, was a sitting duck.

Good umpires call what they see, not what they think should have happened, regardless of potential fallout from coaches, players or fans. To do otherwise is a disservice to the players competing on the field. Do your job and don't insert yourself into the game.

Just my opinion.

Do you call off the plate strikes? Do you believe in "the vicinity"?

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Do you call off the plate strikes? Do you believe in "the vicinity" call?

Not the same cat were skinning there...

What rule did you use to call the runner out

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25 minutes ago, ALStripes17 said:

 

 

Not the same cat were skinning there...

What rule did you use to call the runner out

 

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What rule did you use to call off the plate strikes or allow a defensive player not having to physically touch a base to call an "out"?

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27 minutes ago, ALStripes17 said:

 

 

Not the same cat were skinning there...

What rule did you use to call the runner out

 

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And shame on you for skinning a cat! LOL

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Local coach, and good guy, took his LL All Star team to US finals in Williamsport. Next season, his team was not so good, and had lost four in a row. (they went 38-0 in the regular season the year before)

After a close play at second, with his team lagging behind again, he asked for time, and slowly came out to me in the field. He got close, and with his right shoe, slowly scraped dirt over my base shoes.

"Kyle, what's it going to take for you to throw me out of this game?", he quietly asked.

"Marty, if I have to stay for this $#!+, so do you."

He turned, and just as slowly went back to his dugout.

 

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What rule did you use to call off the plate strikes or allow a defensive player not having to physically touch a base to call an "out"?

Off the plate strikes? They clipped the zone, as the defn of a strike calls.

Not having to physically touch a base? No sir, he definitely touched it. That's why I called him out.

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This was a true story and post of mine from this thread:

It goes like this:
Recently (June 2014), I was BU for a 13U game on a 60-90 field. Top of 5th, R2, 2 outs, 2-2 count, I'm in C... R2 bolts for 3B on the pitch, which is swung through for strike 3, and on reaction, F2 guns a throw over to F5 covering 3B to defend the dramatic slide of R2. I put myself in position, the ball arrives, R2 arrives and... 

... I wheel and start striding towards HP. "Well?! What's the call?!", the VT3BC pleads, astonished. I had worked with my PU partner before, and he and I share the same sense of humor. I replied, over my shoulder, "My partner has the call." With a stunned look on his face, the VT3BC snaps his gaze towards the PU, who has taken off his mask and is fishing out his notebook. PU says, "He's Out... Strike 3". "WHAT?! How can you make that call from _there_?!", comes the incredulous protest of the VT3BC. We were not, in any way, going to dump this guy over that incredulity, but the situation was defused by R2 saying, in that manner that youth can only summon, "Uh, Coach, Blake struck out.", and start trotting towards the VTdugout...
...

"Oh!" says the VT3BC. As we're walking back towards HP, he starts to breathe normally again, and asks me (loud enough for my PU to hear), "So was he out or safe?" I just chuckled with him and said, "I saw the swing all the way, Don.", and he just kept chuckling all the way back to the dugout.

(Don is not his real name.)

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well, the roadt to Williamsport has started here in Central PA.  Those who have been through PA, are familiar that our state flag is the orange construction flag and the state tree is an orange and white construction barrel.  The "roads" are always being worked on.  Nonetheless, 3 nights ago, we saw some "bumpy" road.  Bases loaded, 2 outs and an uncaught 3rd strike. Now one coach is yelling "step on the plate"!  While another is yelling "Throw the ball to 1st".....and this 11y/o reaches a moment of indecision.  AFTER everyone advanced......well, it went something like this.

Catcher : Mr Umpire, if I had stepped on the plate, the runner from 3rd would have been out, and we would be at bat now.

Me: Correct

Catcher: but if I had thrown to 1st.....the runner wouldn't score, 3 outs and we would be at bat now.

Me: Correct

Catcher: Why can't coaches make up their minds?

Me:  You dad would probably tell you to go ask your mother.

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14 hours ago, ALStripes17 said:

Off the plate strikes? They clipped the zone, as the defn of a strike calls.

Not having to physically touch a base? No sir, he definitely touched it. That's why I called him out.

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so you lie about what you saw?

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so you lie about what you saw?

No, not at all. I apply the rules.

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Nobody on base. RHB hits a laser like one hopper to RF who comes up gunning to 1B. A whacker "OUT!" The 3b coach yells, "Hey blue I know it was a bang-bang play, but that wasn't even close!" I lost it with laughter!

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1 minute ago, ALStripes17 said:

No, not at all. I apply the rules.

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Not if the pitch doesn't actually cross the strike zone as defined by the rule book nor if the middle infielder isn't or doesn't actually touch the bag (i.e. straddling the base). 

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Not if the pitch doesn't actually cross the strike zone as defined by the rule book nor if the middle infielder isn't or doesn't actually touch the bag (i.e. straddling the base). 

Then it wouldn't be a strike or the runner wouldn't be out...

The difference: I don't tell a coach something that isn't in the rulebook

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4 minutes ago, ALStripes17 said:

Then it wouldn't be a strike or the runner wouldn't be out...

The difference: I don't tell a coach something that isn't in the rulebook

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So you lie to justify your call?

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So you lie to cover up your call?

What lie? I called what I judged by the rule.

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FFS. This is ridiculous.

Can I have some of your popcorn... I'm fresh out :)

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Just now, ALStripes17 said:

Can I have some of your popcorn... I'm fresh out :)

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Sure

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This past Saturday, partner and I are sitting around waiting for next game and the winning coach (previous game) stops by,  he's talking about the  (losing) coaches saying how bad my calls were, I shouldn't be an umpire, etc......  I might have had 3 calls on the bases the whole game.  1 was a banger that (the losing) team got caught sleeping.  Nonetheless, it was my fault they lost...................... 12-2.

So I said back (in jest), isn't it a shame that adults like me, ruin the game for the kids???

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Happened Today.

Babe Ruth tournament game. The field is in the middle of a park that hosts tennis courts, a pavilion, etc. and it is not uncommon for a game to be stopped because someone is taking a shortcut along the perimeter of the outfield which is part fence, part trees, and part building. I'm plate and I vaguely hear someone yelling "Hey Blue, Hey Blue there's kids on the field." It took a couple seconds to register and I realized there was a woman and two young kids scrambling across far right field. I call time and look to the coach who had been yelling to me and say "Thanks, sorry it took me few seconds to catch on." He says "no problem, for a moment there I thought you were deaf". 

Deaf? 

I say to the coach (who, along everybody else who heard the exchange, laughed their a's off) "I've never had anyone accuse me of being deaf, they usually accuse me of being blind."

Turned out to be a close, well-played game with good sportsmanship all around.

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Conversation with a high school head coach was beginning to get long and heated.  I said, "that's enough!  This conversation is over."

He replied sarcastically, "this conversation is over just because you say so?"

To which I replied sternly, "yes, because I said so and because I'm the one wearing the black shirt." 

He looked at me for a second, glanced down at my shirt, didn't say another word and walked back to the third base coach's box.  

My crew (we were working four-man) died laughing after the game.

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These are not suitable for college or below.

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Me: "You're not good enough to argue with me."

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Batter (on inside-corner pitch I called a strike:) "C'mon, that almost hit my dick."

Me: "That means it was less than an inch off the plate."

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Arrogant F6 who had booted three balls so far argues with me on a pulled foot on the front half of a DP.

Me: "Instead of thinking you're an umpire, why don't you go back to thinking you're a croquet wicket?"

 

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Pitch comes in just below the knees over the middle of the plate.  I call "strike", batter says "where was that, blue?"  I say "over the plate".  He says "I mean the location". I say "over the plate at the knees".  I mean he knew it was the low part of the zone.  It's so annoying when players question things and have no idea how to do it.

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