what's the call?

[grozzly]

[Cav]

Just guessing 'cause I think its LL: BI; R3 out; others return, same count; OSkip, you're done; play ball.

[grayhawk]

Agree with Cav, but will add that if there were 2 outs, the batter is out.

[JaxRolo]

Agree.

Int on the batter

[maven]

Technically, an ejection is not part of the penalty for BI, but I know what you meant.

[Rich Ives]

Where do you see any interference? To me the view from the 3B replay shows the batter has stepped out of the way before the runner arrives.

 

 

And you don't know if it's my catcher or my batter & runner so don't throw a "but coach" at me.

[grozzly]

Where do you see any interference? To me the view from the 3B replay shows the batter has stepped out of the way before the runner arrives.

 

 

 

 stop at the 9th second of the video ....Batter has just attempted to bunt on a throw and is on the catcher's way to tag the runner. 

[grozzly]

[UMP45]

Anyone have a possible balk on the pitcher?

[JaxRolo]

I don't see a balk

[maven]

Anyone have a possible balk on the pitcher?

 

For what? I see him step straight back, with the pivot foot on the ground before the hands separate, or even move. Better than it needs to be, actually.

 

What did you see?

[Jimurray]

 

Anyone have a possible balk on the pitcher?

 

For what? I see him step straight back, with the pivot foot on the ground before the hands separate, or even move. Better than it needs to be, actually.

 

What did you see?

 

Slight knee pop which might have gotten the runner started. Above my pay grade to see or call in real time.

[DVA7130]

I just hope to catch the step off in real time.

Never know when you need to be on top of your game.

[Rich Ives]

 

Where do you see any interference? To me the view from the 3B replay shows the batter has stepped out of the way before the runner arrives.

 

 

 

 stop at the 9th second of the video ....Batter has just attempted to bunt on a throw and is in the catcher's way to tag the runner. 

 

 

Batter has just attempted to bunt on a throw

 

So what? The catcher got the ball cleanly. I see no hindrance on the reception

 

and is in the catcher's way to tag the runner. 

 

I see the batter clearing the path and no hindrance on making the tag.

 

IMHO he was not hindered. No interference.

[Jimurray]

 

 

Where do you see any interference? To me the view from the 3B replay shows the batter has stepped out of the way before the runner arrives.

 

 

 

 stop at the 9th second of the video ....Batter has just attempted to bunt on a throw and is in the catcher's way to tag the runner. 

 

 

Batter has just attempted to bunt on a throw

 

So what? The catcher got the ball cleanly. I see no hindrance on the reception

 

and is in the catcher's way to tag the runner. 

 

I see the batter clearing the path and no hindrance on making the tag.

 

IMHO he was not hindered. No interference.

 

I think the batter actually extends the bat with one hand and makes contact with the catcher's glove. Benefit of the doubt here goes to the catcher as it was not a pitch. Benefit of karma goes to the runner as he might have started home on the knee pop. If the knee pop was on purpose and the batters action was planned we have some pretty devious (that's not a bad thing) coaching and we better have our game on.

[UMP45]

Pitcher simulating a pitch after stepping off rubber? Just throwing it out there. 

[maven]

Pitcher simulating a pitch after stepping off rubber? Just throwing it out there.

If you rule that, you prohibit F1 from throwing home to retire R3. An infielder throwing to F2 is not as such simulating a pitch. For one thing, with the runner already going, there wouldn't be any advantage to pretending to pitch at that point.

That end of the stick couldn't be dirtier.

maven

[UMP45]

 

Pitcher simulating a pitch after stepping off rubber? Just throwing it out there.

If you rule that, you prohibit F1 from throwing home to retire R3. An infielder throwing to F2 is not as such simulating a pitch. For one thing, with the runner already going, there wouldn't be any advantage to pretending to pitch at that point.

That end of the stick couldn't be dirtier.

maven

 

So your saying it couldn't happen. Or that you just wouldn't call it.

[Richvee]

 

 

Pitcher simulating a pitch after stepping off rubber? Just throwing it out there.

If you rule that, you prohibit F1 from throwing home to retire R3. An infielder throwing to F2 is not as such simulating a pitch. For one thing, with the runner already going, there wouldn't be any advantage to pretending to pitch at that point.

That end of the stick couldn't be dirtier.

maven

 

So your saying it couldn't happen. Or that you just wouldn't call it.

 

Seems to me it's another good example of umpiring with the rules. The reason simulating a pitching motion while not engaged is illegal is so a pitcher can't start a windup from off the rubber to trick the runner into thinking he has committed to the plate. Certainly not the case here. 

[UMP45]

Bingo. I was just throwing stuff out there to see what was said/thought.

[Rich Ives]

 

 

 

Where do you see any interference? To me the view from the 3B replay shows the batter has stepped out of the way before the runner arrives.

 

 

 

 stop at the 9th second of the video ....Batter has just attempted to bunt on a throw and is in the catcher's way to tag the runner. 

 

 

Batter has just attempted to bunt on a throw

 

So what? The catcher got the ball cleanly. I see no hindrance on the reception

 

and is in the catcher's way to tag the runner. 

 

I see the batter clearing the path and no hindrance on making the tag.

 

IMHO he was not hindered. No interference.

 

I think the batter actually extends the bat with one hand and makes contact with the catcher's glove. Benefit of the doubt here goes to the catcher as it was not a pitch. Benefit of karma goes to the runner as he might have started home on the knee pop. If the knee pop was on purpose and the batters action was planned we have some pretty devious (that's not a bad thing) coaching and we better have our game on.

 

 

Squeeze (or steal) was on - runner left too soon. Why he left too soon can be debated. But, the batter squaring says the squeeze was on.

 

Can't know if the batter knew the pitcher stepped off  as a batter's focus is on the pitch release point. I suspect he did though based on pulling the bat back and stepping out of the base path.

 

No one would plan a play like this. It leaves the runner hung out. Getting a bunt down (or fouling it off) is REQUIRED. Kangaroo court will get you if  you don't. If you know it has become a throw you don't interfere because you know it's going to be an out. THINK!

[Richvee]

I think the batter hinders F2 from getting in position in front of the plate to apply a tag. 

 

[maineump]

Batter is not in 'normal position' and is out over the plate. I've got BI - interference doesn't have to be intentional.

Pitcher did everything right, the 3B runner must have been on first move (probably the best way to squeeze and get a good jump).

[MidAmUmp]

Let's just be real honest...

Plays like this are unexpected and happen so fast do you REALLY think you would be quick thinking enough to call interference in real time if you were the plate umpire? Most umpires would have crap running down their legs.

 

Posting a screen shot of a split second of a YouTube video to make a case that the plate umpire missed an interference call only makes you eligible for an instant replay officials. Too bad MLB isn't hiring any.

 

In real time I seriously doubt any of us are good enough to recognize the pitcher disengaged and the batter attempted to bunt at a throw. If you are, you're a better umpire than I.

[ALStripes17]

Let's just be real honest...

Plays like this are unexpected and happen so fast do you REALLY think you would be quick thinking enough to call interference in real time if you were the plate umpire? Most umpires would have crap running down their legs.

Posting a screen shot of a split second of a YouTube video to make a case that the plate umpire missed an interference call only makes you eligible for an instant replay officials. Too bad MLB isn't hiring any.

In real time I seriously doubt any of us are good enough to recognize the pitcher disengaged and the batter attempted to bunt at a throw. If you are, you're a better umpire than I.

I feel like this type of play is one of those plays I would be ready for. Are there other simpler plays that may be a little more unexpected for me? Of course! None of us are anywhere near perfect.

I dont think the BI would be hard to call. It's seeing the step off prior to it

MidAmUmp, you're the man. I appreciate your insight on this forum. Ive learned a lot.