Safe at second on a steal-overturned

[Thunderheads]

I think what this year has taught us, and probably the pros also, is that certain plays must have more scrutiny because real speed can be deceiving.  Once again, a call that you're probably safing most of the time (notice no arguments from players) turns out to be an out ......

 

http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/63817564/v36591219

[blue23ll]

I tell you what, if you call that an out more times than not you are going to get screamed at...."THE TAG WAS HIGH BLUE, HE GOT UNDER IT"

[Thunderheads]

I tell you what, if you call that an out more times than not you are going to get screamed at...."THE TAG WAS HIGH BLUE, HE GOT UNDER IT"

that's EXACTLY my point ..... I think some of these replays allows ALL OF US to get better just by watching!

[maven]

What can we do mechanically to see this better? Being farther away would let us see both hand and tag in the same window, but we risk getting a worse angle for swipe tags.

 

I don't see these calls changing much at levels without IR. The high tag IS a fairly (but not perfectly) reliable indicator that the runner got under it. Nelson made the expected call here.

[blue23ll]

Maven is correct. This brings out the age old dilemma, do we make 'path of least resistance' calls or call what we feel is right, based on our judgement?  There are arguments in favor of not making the right calls that are wrong. 

[Jimurray]

What can we do mechanically to see this better? Being farther away would let us see both hand and tag in the same window, but we risk getting a worse angle for swipe tags.

I don't see these calls changing much at levels without IR. The high tag IS a fairly (but not perfectly) reliable indicator that the runner got under it. Nelson made the expected call here.

I see a lot of MLB umps a few more feet into the infield than I would be. I would be just inside the grass line and looking at base and tag in same line of view. His angle doesn't give him that view. Don't know why I'm seeing them further inside. Looks like he was not set either.