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So it is automatically assumed that is the case. I had a feeling I was right.

 

 

Your feeling was correct.  PU should catch this at the plate meeting and reconfirm w/ skip that's what he wants.

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I know we have a discussion going on in the Rules section of the board about another test question, but I wanted to post a few more questions that I had trouble with and see what you guys have.  I don't want answers, but if anyone has rule citations or can jog my memory on any of these, go for it.  I will post them in separate posts to keep them organized.  Just quote that post when answering...

 

 
The batting order is Able, Baker, Charles, Daniels. Charles bats instead of Baker and singles to center field. Baker comes to bat and singles sending Charles to third base. The defense appeals that Baker batted out of turn.
 
  • a.
    • Daniels is declared out and Charles is returned to first.
 
  • b.
    • Baker and Daniels are both declared out and Charles is returned to first.
 
  • c.
    • Baker is declared out and Charles is the next batter.
 
  • d.
    • Baker is declared out and Charles is returned to first

 

If the defense had appealed the BOO after Charles completed his turn at bat, the proper batter (Baker) would have been called out and Charles would be the next batter.  The appeal doesn't come until after Baker bats though, so was Daniels supposed to be the proper batter and Baker batted in his place, so Daniels would be out?  

 

This one gave me a headache last night so that's where I stopped.

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9-2-1 Penalty

9-2-i Penalty says a ball shall be called for each violation, and does not mention ejection after the first one -- so why wouldn't the answer be, "A"?

I looked back at my test last year and the ejection was not part of the answer. I will go with A as well.

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The defensive team is using a nine-player lineup. The defensive team does not list a P/DH on their lineup. During a mound conference, the head coach wants S1 to replace F1 and S2 to replace F9 but have them swap positions in the batting order.
 
  • a.
    • The head coach may not make such a substitution.
 
  • b.
    • The head coach must inform the plate umpire before signaling for S2.
 
  • c.
    • The head coach must inform the plate umpire before leaving the field.
 
  • d.
    • The head coach must inform the umpire of his intention before crossing the foul line on the way to the mound

 

 

 

They are using a 9-player lineup and don't list a P/DH, so the pitcher is automatically the DH also.  I am thinking C.  The subs aren't replacing defensive positions, they're replacing spots in the order, so S2 would take the P/DH's spot in the order, while S1 would take F9's spot.  

 

Hint:  How many subs are needed before the coach can specify the lineup spots?  Does replacing the pitcher count as one of these subs?

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The defensive team is using a nine-player lineup. The defensive team does not list a P/DH on their lineup. During a mound conference, the head coach wants S1 to replace F1 and S2 to replace F9 but have them swap positions in the batting order.
 
  • a.
    • The head coach may not make such a substitution.
 
  • b.
    • The head coach must inform the plate umpire before signaling for S2.
 
  • c.
    • The head coach must inform the plate umpire before leaving the field.
 
  • d.
    • The head coach must inform the umpire of his intention before crossing the foul line on the way to the mound

 

 

 

They are using a 9-player lineup and don't list a P/DH, so the pitcher is automatically the DH also.  I am thinking C.  The subs aren't replacing defensive positions, they're replacing spots in the order, so S2 would take the P/DH's spot in the order, while S1 would take F9's spot.  

 

the coach can place them in the order where he see fit.. but your reading into the question and not answering the question.. dont worry about where they need to be, just when does the coach need to tell the umpire.

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R3, R2, one out. The coach brings in a reliever to pitch to the clean-up hitter who is 3 for 3 for the game. The new relief pitcher finishes his eight preparatory pitches and tells the umpire that he is not ready and throws a ninth pitch. The replaced pitcher was not injured.

 

  • a.
  • The umpire will call a ball on each additional pitch beyond eight that the new pitcher throws.

  • b.
  • There is no penalty. The umpire will warn the pitcher that if he throws additional warm-up pitches, he will be replaced as the pitcher.

  • c.
  • The umpire says, "Ball one, you get just eight warm-up pitches." The count is 1-0 when the hitter assumes his position in the batter's box. The umpire tells the pitcher that if he throws any more warm-up pitches, he will be ejcted. The umpire then signals, "play."

  • d.
  • The pitcher is warned for throwing an extra warm-up pitch and is ejected if he throws a second warm-up throw and the second throw is ruled as "no pitch."
 

I'm pretty sure this one was on a test previously, but i can't remember how I answered.  I've looked for it several places in the book but haven't had any luck.

This was on last year's test. It's C.

 

Nope.. every pitch he trows after the 8 is just a ball.. not an ejection

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I think the answer is D. The head  coach must inform the umpire of his intentions before crossing the foul line on the way to the mound.

 

cite rule 5-5-e and rule 9-4-d

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The defensive team is using a nine-player lineup. The defensive team does not list a P/DH on their lineup. During a mound conference, the head coach wants S1 to replace F1 and S2 to replace F9 but have them swap positions in the batting order.

 

  • a.

  • The head coach may not make such a substitution.

 

  • b.

  • The head coach must inform the plate umpire before signaling for S2.

 

  • c.

  • The head coach must inform the plate umpire before leaving the field.

 

  • d.

  • The head coach must inform the umpire of his intention before crossing the foul line on the way to the mound

 

They are using a 9-player lineup and don't list a P/DH, so the pitcher is automatically the DH also.  I am thinking C.  The subs aren't replacing defensive positions, they're replacing spots in the order, so S2 would take the P/DH's spot in the order, while S1 would take F9's spot.

You're talking NCAA right?

5-5-e

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R3, R2, one out. The coach brings in a reliever to pitch to the clean-up hitter who is 3 for 3 for the game. The new relief pitcher finishes his eight preparatory pitches and tells the umpire that he is not ready and throws a ninth pitch. The replaced pitcher was not injured.

 

  • a.
  • The umpire will call a ball on each additional pitch beyond eight that the new pitcher throws.
  • b.
  • There is no penalty. The umpire will warn the pitcher that if he throws additional warm-up pitches, he will be replaced as the pitcher.
  • c.
  • The umpire says, "Ball one, you get just eight warm-up pitches." The count is 1-0 when the hitter assumes his position in the batter's box. The umpire tells the pitcher that if he throws any more warm-up pitches, he will be ejcted. The umpire then signals, "play."
  • d.
  • The pitcher is warned for throwing an extra warm-up pitch and is ejected if he throws a second warm-up throw and the second throw is ruled as "no pitch."
 

I'm pretty sure this one was on a test previously, but i can't remember how I answered.  I've looked for it several places in the book but haven't had any luck.

This was on last year's test. It's C.

Nope.. every pitch he trows after the 8 is just a ball.. not an ejection

9-2-i

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Is there a difference between answers B and D here?

 

Question #6
R2, R3. Squeeze play. The catcher steps in front of home plate to receive the pitch from F1 before the batter has an opportunity to bunt the ball. R2 was not stealing on the play.
  • a.
    • None of the above. The ball remains in play.
  • b.
    • R3 scores, The batter is awarded first base on the catcher's interference. There is no "balk" charged to the pitcher. R2 stays at 2nd base.
  • c.
    • Time is called as soon as the catcher steps in front of the plate prior to the batter having an opportunity to bunt the ball. The pitcher is charged with a balk. Score R3, award the batter first base and award R2 third base.
  • d.
    • R3 gets home and the batter is awarded first on the catcher's interference. R2 is returned to second base since he was not attempting to steal 3rd.

Should be true that no balk is called, else R2 would get 3rd.  But both B and D share the same result.

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The defensive team is using a nine-player lineup. The defensive team does not list a P/DH on their lineup. During a mound conference, the head coach wants S1 to replace F1 and S2 to replace F9 but have them swap positions in the batting order.
 
  • a.
    • The head coach may not make such a substitution.
 
  • b.
    • The head coach must inform the plate umpire before signaling for S2.
 
  • c.
    • The head coach must inform the plate umpire before leaving the field.
 
  • d.
    • The head coach must inform the umpire of his intention before crossing the foul line on the way to the mound

 

 

 

They are using a 9-player lineup and don't list a P/DH, so the pitcher is automatically the DH also.  I am thinking C.  The subs aren't replacing defensive positions, they're replacing spots in the order, so S2 would take the P/DH's spot in the order, while S1 would take F9's spot.  

 

 

This one is C.

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Is there a difference between answers B and D here?

 

Question #6
R2, R3. Squeeze play. The catcher steps in front of home plate to receive the pitch from F1 before the batter has an opportunity to bunt the ball. R2 was not stealing on the play.
 
  • a.
    • None of the above. The ball remains in play.
 
  • b.
    • R3 scores, The batter is awarded first base on the catcher's interference. There is no "balk" charged to the pitcher. R2 stays at 2nd base.
 
  • c.
    • Time is called as soon as the catcher steps in front of the plate prior to the batter having an opportunity to bunt the ball. The pitcher is charged with a balk. Score R3, award the batter first base and award R2 third base.
 
  • d.
    • R3 gets home and the batter is awarded first on the catcher's interference. R2 is returned to second base since he was not attempting to steal 3rd.

Should be true that no balk is called, else R2 would get 3rd.  But both B and D share the same result.

 

Check that again and look up 8-2-e and the ARs included in that.

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R2, R3, no outs. B3 bunts the ball in the air along the first base line with the runners moving on contact. As the first baseman moves in to make the catch, he collides with B3, who was not trying to interfere.
  • a.
    • Dead ball, interference on B3. Since the interference was not intentional, only B3 is called out. All other runners return to their previous base.
  • b.
    • Dead ball, interference on B3. Both B3 and R3 are out. R2 returns to second base.
  • c.
    • Dead ball; interference on B3. B3 is out and so is R2 for the interference of his teammate. R3 returns to third.
  • d.
    • No interference. The batter did not intentionally interfere. This is an example of the "scramble/unscramble" play.

 

 

I already know the correct answer to this one. (It's not necessarily the one that is highlighted above)

 

What do you guys have?

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R2, R3, no outs. B3 bunts the ball in the air along the first base line with the runners moving on contact. As the first baseman moves in to make the catch, he collides with B3, who was not trying to interfere.
 
  • a.
    • Dead ball, interference on B3. Since the interference was not intentional, only B3 is called out. All other runners return to their previous base.
 
  • b.
    • Dead ball, interference on B3. Both B3 and R3 are out. R2 returns to second base.
 
  • c.
    • Dead ball; interference on B3. B3 is out and so is R2 for the interference of his teammate. R3 returns to third.
 
  • d.
    • No interference. The batter did not intentionally interfere. This is an example of the "scramble/unscramble" play.

 

 

I already know the correct answer to this one. (It's not necessarily the one that is highlighted above)

 

What do you guys have?

 

I put "B", using 8-5-e.  Visualizing the play, I'm thinking runners moving on contact means R3 & R2 unlikely to be able to get back to the base before F3 would be able to double them off, absent the interference.  Granted -- depending on how fast R3 puts on the brakes, may be able to make it back, so this is a little gray for me.  Rule says intent if immaterial, so I think that makes "A" and "D" incorrect.  And if I use 8-5-e, it's the BR and the runner closest to home...so that makes "C" incorrect.  Not a black and white play, but my best take via process of elimination...

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R2, R3, no outs. B3 bunts the ball in the air along the first base line with the runners moving on contact. As the first baseman moves in to make the catch, he collides with B3, who was not trying to interfere.
 
  • a.
    • Dead ball, interference on B3. Since the interference was not intentional, only B3 is called out. All other runners return to their previous base.
 
  • b.
    • Dead ball, interference on B3. Both B3 and R3 are out. R2 returns to second base.
 
  • c.
    • Dead ball; interference on B3. B3 is out and so is R2 for the interference of his teammate. R3 returns to third.
 
  • d.
    • No interference. The batter did not intentionally interfere. This is an example of the "scramble/unscramble" play.

 

 

I already know the correct answer to this one. (It's not necessarily the one that is highlighted above)

 

What do you guys have?

 

I put "B", using 8-5-e.  Visualizing the play, I'm thinking runners moving on contact means R3 & R2 unlikely to be able to get back to the base before F3 would be able to double them off, absent the interference.  Granted -- depending on how fast R3 puts on the brakes, may be able to make it back, so this is a little gray for me.  Rule says intent if immaterial, so I think that makes "A" and "D" incorrect.  And if I use 8-5-e, it's the BR and the runner closest to home...so that makes "C" incorrect.  Not a black and white play, but my best take via process of elimination...

 

Looks like good logic to me.

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The defensive team is using a nine-player lineup. The defensive team does not list a P/DH on their lineup. During a mound conference, the head coach wants S1 to replace F1 and S2 to replace F9 but have them swap positions in the batting order.
 
  • a.
    • The head coach may not make such a substitution.
 
  • b.
    • The head coach must inform the plate umpire before signaling for S2.
 
  • c.
    • The head coach must inform the plate umpire before leaving the field.
 
  • d.
    • The head coach must inform the umpire of his intention before crossing the foul line on the way to the mound

 

 

 

They are using a 9-player lineup and don't list a P/DH, so the pitcher is automatically the DH also.  I am thinking C.  The subs aren't replacing defensive positions, they're replacing spots in the order, so S2 would take the P/DH's spot in the order, while S1 would take F9's spot.  

 

 

This one is C.

 

That's what I would put (and I think I misread the question earlier).  the NCAA rule id different than the OBR rule here.

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R2, R3, no outs. B3 bunts the ball in the air along the first base line with the runners moving on contact. As the first baseman moves in to make the catch, he collides with B3, who was not trying to interfere.
 
  • a.
    • Dead ball, interference on B3. Since the interference was not intentional, only B3 is called out. All other runners return to their previous base.
 
  • b.
    • Dead ball, interference on B3. Both B3 and R3 are out. R2 returns to second base.
 
  • c.
    • Dead ball; interference on B3. B3 is out and so is R2 for the interference of his teammate. R3 returns to third.
 
  • d.
    • No interference. The batter did not intentionally interfere. This is an example of the "scramble/unscramble" play.

 

 

I already know the correct answer to this one. (It's not necessarily the one that is highlighted above)

 

What do you guys have?

 

 

I had A originally, but after talking to others, it's B.  I don't really like how we're supposed to assume that R3 would be doubled off at third, but I can see it happening.  

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I have a hard time assuming a double play when the INT is not intentional. That is why OBR allows you to get two only when the INT is "willful and deliberate". From that you can judge the INT was meant to take away a double play opportunity.

That being said, if they want me to get two, I'll get two and submit my report.

Posted

 

Is there a difference between answers B and D here?

 

Question #6
R2, R3. Squeeze play. The catcher steps in front of home plate to receive the pitch from F1 before the batter has an opportunity to bunt the ball. R2 was not stealing on the play.
 
  • a.
    • None of the above. The ball remains in play.
 
  • b.
    • R3 scores, The batter is awarded first base on the catcher's interference. There is no "balk" charged to the pitcher. R2 stays at 2nd base.
 
  • c.
    • Time is called as soon as the catcher steps in front of the plate prior to the batter having an opportunity to bunt the ball. The pitcher is charged with a balk. Score R3, award the batter first base and award R2 third base.
 
  • d.
    • R3 gets home and the batter is awarded first on the catcher's interference. R2 is returned to second base since he was not attempting to steal 3rd.

Should be true that no balk is called, else R2 would get 3rd.  But both B and D share the same result.

 

Check that again and look up 8-2-e and the ARs included in that.

 

 

I read it and re-read it and it seems mostly to deal with differentiating catcher INT with the catcher's mitt and batter's bat banging together during a simple warm-up swing.

 

The question says the catcher stepped in front of the plate.  That seems drastic.  We need the batter to actually swing and probably hit the catcher to call that catcher's INT?

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The defensive team is using a nine-player lineup. The defensive team does not list a P/DH on their lineup. During a mound conference, the head coach wants S1 to replace F1 and S2 to replace F9 but have them swap positions in the batting order.

  • a.
  • The head coach may not make such a substitution.

  • b.
  • The head coach must inform the plate umpire before signaling for S2.

  • c.
  • The head coach must inform the plate umpire before leaving the field.

  • d.
  • The head coach must inform the umpire of his intention before crossing the foul line on the way to the mound

They are using a 9-player lineup and don't list a P/DH, so the pitcher is automatically the DH also. I am thinking C. The subs aren't replacing defensive positions, they're replacing spots in the order, so S2 would take the P/DH's spot in the order, while S1 would take F9's spot.

This one is C. This is a double switch and the PU must be informed immediately, prior to any change or visit to the mound. If the sub for the pitcher was to stay in that batting position, he can become the new P/DH or the removed pitcher can remain the DH. Once the coach wants to change the batting order it is a double switch and the DH is terminated.

Posted

I have a hard time assuming a double play when the INT is not intentional. That is why OBR allows you to get two only when the INT is "willful and deliberate". From that you can judge the INT was meant to take away a double play opportunity.

That being said, if they want me to get two, I'll get two and submit my report.

 

I thought the same thing.  You're going to be writing a report after this one if you get two outs.  I can see if the B/R tackles F3 on purpose to keep him from catching and throwing the ball to third base to retire F3, but just garden variety interference?  I don't buy it.

 

 

 

 

The defensive team is using a nine-player lineup. The defensive team does not list a P/DH on their lineup. During a mound conference, the head coach wants S1 to replace F1 and S2 to replace F9 but have them swap positions in the batting order.

 

  • a.
  • The head coach may not make such a substitution.

  • b.
  • The head coach must inform the plate umpire before signaling for S2.

  • c.
  • The head coach must inform the plate umpire before leaving the field.

  • d.
  • The head coach must inform the umpire of his intention before crossing the foul line on the way to the mound

They are using a 9-player lineup and don't list a P/DH, so the pitcher is automatically the DH also. I am thinking C. The subs aren't replacing defensive positions, they're replacing spots in the order, so S2 would take the P/DH's spot in the order, while S1 would take F9's spot.

This one is C. This is a double switch and the PU must be informed immediately, prior to any change or visit to the mound. If the sub for the pitcher was to stay in that batting position, he can become the new P/DH or the removed pitcher can remain the DH. Once the coach wants to change the batting order it is a double switch and the DH is terminated.

 

 

We'll see when the results come out.  I'm pretty sure it's C.  

 

Edit: I looked at the rule book again and I don't really know.  Nevermind.

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I have answer A. When the defense threw the 1st pitch to Baker, it legalized the improper batter Charles, thus picking up the bating order from there. Daniels should be the batter, but Baker is batting instead. So when Baker completes his at bat and is appealed for BOO, Daniels is declared out, Baker is removed from the bases and Charles is returned to 1st base.

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I don't remember having this question, but I would select D. An ejection doesn't terminate the DH, and there is nothing I have come across in the rulebook that states that the OC has to name a replacement right away for his ejected DH (as it does if the defensive coach were at the mound replacing a P/DH).

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