Overturned ... safe to out

[Thunderheads]

This goes on WAY TOO LONG!!

http://wapc.mlb.com/play/?content_id=29812533&query=umpire

 

http://wapc.mlb.com/play?content_id=29812533

[maven]

Wrong video?

[hbk314]

Perhaps this one?

 

http://wapc.mlb.com/play/?content_id=29812533&query=umpire

[Thunderheads]

FIXED!!!

[maven]

I'm assuming Jeff means the discussion with Porter was too long. Maybe, but they kept him in the game, when it wasn't clear that he wanted to go. He gets a little more rope when the call is changed, provided he keeps a civil tongue in his head (which he did).

[mstaylor]

Hey guys, don't watch the video too close, the PU has a indicator.    Yes, they let him stick quite a while. 

[maven]

I've noticed a generational difference. As you know, "old school" umpiring was about making your call and sticking to it. "New school" is about getting it right.

 

Well, I have seen "old school" and "new school" managers. A vet like Jim Leyland would have gotten himself run if that reversal had gone against him. But a newer manager like Porter has come up with the "get it right" mentality, understands that it's good for the game, and will bark about it enough to make a point but without getting tossed.

 

This is a generalization, so there are exceptions, but observe what the skipper does next time when the umpires "get it right."

[GerryB]

Positioning - I think Cooper set up in a good place, expecting to see a swipe tag kind of like 3BX - but he was in a bad place to see a tag on the back.

Would something more in between (less to the outfield), have been better?

[HeadHunterLA]

Me:  I asked for help, we got it right, he's out, get your ass back in the dugout skipper.

[mstaylor]

I don't have a problem in a four man asking, in a two man, no way am I asking. Hows that for a cross between old school and new school. The fact remains, they asked, it went against him, explain it briefly and send him to the dugout. If he is truly a new school manager then he needs to understand that you have to live and die by it. Sometimes it goes for you, sometimes it doesn't.