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We all spend a lot of time talking and posting about ejections.

 

We conduct a joint training session with our coaches AND umpires each season and talk about lots of things. Most misunderstood rules, general game procedures and ejections.

 

I intend to add a little more meat to the ejections topic.

This is one, I have 5 total, of the umpire directives we use in ours: “Do not let anyone, including yourself, become uncomfortable during your gameâ€

 

I am constantly asked by lots of people why we eject.

 

How about 3 other reasons why we eject?

 

 

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We all spend a lot of time talking and posting about ejections.

 

We conduct a joint training session with our coaches AND umpires each season and talk about lots of things. Most misunderstood rules, general game procedures and ejections.

 

I intend to add a little more meat to the ejections topic.

This is one, I have 5 total, of the umpire directives we use in ours: “Do not let anyone, including yourself, become uncomfortable during your gameâ€

 

I am constantly asked by lots of people why we eject.

 

How about 3 other reasons why we eject?

When the coach or player has made the decision to no longer participate in the days athletic activities!

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We all spend a lot of time talking and posting about ejections.

 

We conduct a joint training session with our coaches AND umpires each season and talk about lots of things. Most misunderstood rules, general game procedures and ejections.

 

I intend to add a little more meat to the ejections topic.

This is one, I have 5 total, of the umpire directives we use in ours: “Do not let anyone, including yourself, become uncomfortable during your gameâ€

 

I am constantly asked by lots of people why we eject.

 

How about 3 other reasons why we eject?

When the coach or player has made the decision to no longer participate in the days athletic activities!

 

think like an instructor.

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I know this will probably not be seen as helpful, but there's one question that I find useful:

 

Will the game be better without the ejected person?

 

There are a lot of reasons that question can be asked and a lot of interpretations to that question, and I find those make pretty good discussion topics themselves.

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I know this will probably not be seen as helpful, but there's one question that I find useful:

 

Will the game be better without the ejected person?

 

There are a lot of reasons that question can be asked and a lot of interpretations to that question, and I find those make pretty good discussion topics themselves.

Thought you would have a great one.

Thanks.

More please.

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I eject to prevent the game from getting out of hand when one participant decides to make a mockery of the game of baseball. For example, cursing or verbal abuse, or other acts which take away from the sport itself.

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I eject to prevent the game from getting out of hand when one participant decides to make a mockery of the game of baseball. For example, cursing or verbal abuse, or other acts which take away from the sport itself.

"cursing or verbal abuse' Good.

Good looking for more.

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When _______________ (player, manager, coach) is so demonstrative that everyone in the ballpark can hear him wanting to be ejected.

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To promote the safety and welfare of others at the game.

To confirm that that there are consequences for one's unacceptable actions in sports.

To confirm Umpire(s) authority on the field.

To evaluate and establish one's self character during a time of "contention".

:-)

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When a person who is a betterment to the game ceases to be a part of the game and becomes a hindrance to the game's advancement. 

 

I think that sums up all reasons for ejections.

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The three P's --- prolonged, profane, or personal.

You can do better that that.

 

Sure, I could.  But, you asked for three.  So, I gave you three.  And when it comes to ejections, I've been told to keep the words to a minimum.    :wave:  :D

 

I figured I'd let someone else give three more.

 

etc.  

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Ok, thinking like an instructor...

 

Umpires are trusted with upholding the tradition of sportsmanship built into the game since its first days.  So, eject participants that violate that tradition.

 

Short and sweet: If his actions would shock his grandma, then he probably needs to go.

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When the participant is becoming more important than the game.

When an adult participant is no longer setting a proper example of adult sportsmanship.

When, as an umpire, you need to regain control of the conduct of the game.

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Many others have given great answers. Here's mine.

 

  • "You"/ Personal statements -- I have zero tolerance
  • Being accused of cheating -- Zero tolerance if I feel they are being serious, very little tolerance otherwise
  • Counting - Very low tolerance; they'll get a warning and be on an extremely short leash
  • Demonstrating - Low tolerance; may get a warning depending on how animated they get
  • Inciting others (players or spectators) - No tolerance
  • Ignoring a prior warning - No tolerance; if I was nice enough to give a warning earlier don't shove it up my a$$.
  • Physical contact/spit/spittle- Zero tolerance
  • Prolonged arguments - Even if the player/coach is staying within the reasonable realm, we need to get back to playing ASAP. So say what you have to say once you run out of new material get back to the bench (and too many umpires keep giving them new material) once you start repeating yourself my tolerance level drops quickly. 
  • Trying to be smart/cute in arguing a judgement call - you may get more slack in being direct in arguing a judgement call. Don't try to play games or be a smarty pants in skirting around it. My tolerance goes quickly with this too.

 

These are somewhat situational. I may give the coach of the 12 y/o team who thinks he's the next Lou Piniella a little more line and try to educate him on the path of destruction he is on, but when I feel the coach should know better then you've gotta go.

 

If I were running such a clinic I'd cover how to address an umpire and have a productive conversation for coaches and a how to manage managers for the umps.

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When an adult participant is no longer setting a proper example of adult sportsmanship.

All I do is youth ball. This is a big one for me, especially at younger age groups (10u and below). Honestly, we are all there to set an example and teach these kids to play baseball the right way.

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The number one reason I eject is that there is a fundamental lack of respect being shown to myself.  A coach can get a lot of rope being respectful in asking his questions and expressing his opinions. A lack of respect covers a lot of ground for me, from arguing balls and strikes, questioning  my authority, to trying to show me up. This is a far from inclusive list

 

The number 2 reason I eject is a show of poor sportsmanship.  Spiking a helmet, smashing a bat on the ground, tossing equipment and taunting opponents are a few examples of poor sportsmanship i may or have ejected for

 

The number 3 reason I eject is for questioning my integrity.  Saying I cheat for one team or another, that I am a "homer" questioning my competency and knowledge of the rules

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In all my years I have only thrown two coaches and both were for throwing the "F" bomb so that everyone could hear.

I have found that a stern warning usually is enough to keep a game moving along smoothly.

 

On a side note, it still amazes me how often coaches will ask a question or make a comment from the sideline on a call that he/she considers questionable. Instead of calling timeout and coming out and discussing the call (Which is discussed pre game) they still want to make comments from beyond the field of play.

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I actually wrote a "How To Not Be Ejected" document (started as a joke, but was eventually distributed to coaches!) for our local LL after I and another umpire who rarely eject each had ejections about a week apart.  It's nothing you guys haven't seen or don't know, but I found it interesting that the coaches seemed unaware of some of the content.

 

I actually had a manager ask me, a few weeks after he read it, if I would really eject a coach for something as 'harmless' as arguing balls and strikes!  They just don't get it. 

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