umpire called 2 out

[Guest john]

man on 2nd and 3rd and no outs in this 11u USSSA tournament.

runner on 3rd dashes home, pitcher throws, batter swings and misses,

swing takes batter over plate which places him moving through home plate,

catcher catches pitch and moves to intercept runner coming in to steal home.

catcher cannot make the play due to the batter's legs and feet being in-between

the tag.

 

umpire called 2 outs, the runner and the current batter

 

I was thinking the batter would be out, but wouldn't it be a dead ball, runner back

to 3rd?

 

thanks.

 

[scrounge]

Was it strike 3?

[johnnyg08]

Was it strike 3?

 

 

man on 2nd and 3rd and no outs in this 11u USSSA tournament.

runner on 3rd dashes home, pitcher throws, batter swings and misses,

swing takes batter over plate which places him moving through home plate,

catcher catches pitch and moves to intercept runner coming in to steal home.

catcher cannot make the play due to the batter's legs and feet being in-between

the tag.

 

umpire called 2 outs, the runner and the current batter

 

I was thinking the batter would be out, but wouldn't it be a dead ball, runner back

to 3rd?

 

thanks.

 

 

In this play, the runner will not be returning to third base if interference is the call. 

[maven]

That certainly sounds like BI.

 

As scrounge implies, the call will be different depending on whether the batter struck out on his swing. If it was strike 3, the batter is out on the K. When he interferes, R3 is out for the INT, the ball is dead, and R2 goes back to 2B. Next batter, 2 outs.

 

If it was not strike 3, then the correct result for BI with no outs would be to call out R3 for the BI, the ball is dead, the strike on the batter counts, return R2 to 2B if he advanced. Resume play with 1 out.

[DVA7130]

That certainly sounds like BI.

 

As scrounge implies, the call will be different depending on whether the batter struck out on his swing. If it was strike 3, the batter is out on the K. When he interferes, R3 is out for the INT, the ball is dead, and R2 goes back to 2B. Next batter, 2 outs.

 

If it was not strike 3, then the correct result for BI with no outs would be to call out R3 for the BI, the ball is dead, the strike on the batter counts, return R2 to 2B if he advanced. Resume play with 1 out.

+1

 

If there were two outs and the batter was not out on strike three, then he is out on the interference for reference on who would be up to bat next inning.

[Larry in TN]

How do you determine if there was interference if the running got an early enough break that the batter didn't have time to get out of the way after his swing?

[noumpere]

How do you determine if there was interference if the running got an early enough break that the batter didn't have time to get out of the way after his swing?

The batter doesn't have to "get out of the way after his swing."  What he can't do is make "any other movement" to hinder the catcher.  In the OP, the batter "swing takes batter over plate which places him moving through home plate" -- that's what leads to the interference.

 

99% of the time when the batter swings he mostly rotates around the hips but the body stays in a general cylinder.

 

But when theres a steal, then 99% (okay that's too high) of the time the batter all of a sudden falls over the plate.  And then claims it's just "part of his swing."  Sure.  You might be selling, but I aint buying.

[maven]

99% of the time when the batter swings he mostly rotates around the hips but the body stays in a general cylinder.

 

But when theres a steal, then 99% (okay that's too high) of the time the batter all of a sudden falls over the plate.  And then claims it's just "part of his swing."  Sure.  You might be selling, but I aint buying.

Agree. Around here this might be one of the most missed calls.

[Jocko]

With less than 2 outs, R3 is our for BI.

With 2 outs, the batter is out for BI.

The rule book is very plain about this. In either case, R3 won't be returning.

I concur with my colleagues

[Magic]

 

99% of the time when the batter swings he mostly rotates around the hips but the body stays in a general cylinder.

 

But when theres a steal, then 99% (okay that's too high) of the time the batter all of a sudden falls over the plate.  And then claims it's just "part of his swing."  Sure.  You might be selling, but I aint buying.

Agree. Around here this might be one of the most missed calls.

 

I think that is the most missed call in all of baseball. I see guys not call it every season. And the coaches have no clue.

[mstaylor]

Too many don't call the BI on a steal of second. I know every year I stress it at meetings, I explain it. A couple of years ago I had an umpire come back from a Evan's clinic and says he understands the BI now and why I have been preaching it. I asked what he said different to clear it up, nothing really, he just made it clear how important it is.   

[noumpere]

Got it yesterday to end the top of the first inning.  Caught a rasherfull of "cheating" comments from the fans.  Made me laugh.

[BigUmp56]

Got it yesterday to end the top of the first inning.  Caught a rasherfull of "cheating" comments from the fans.  Made me laugh.

 

 

Rasherfull?

 

Tim.