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Does anyone else think that the base umpire who came in and talked to Rosario was a little out of line??? Almost as if he was accusing him of not catching it on purpose??

It appears that it started to get a bit chippy there and then the pitcher came in and then Jim Tracy.... Could have gotten ugly real easy....

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Does anyone else think that the base umpire who came in and talked to Rosario was a little out of line??? Almost as if he was accusing him of not catching it on purpose??

It appears that it started to get a bit chippy there and then the pitcher came in and then Jim Tracy.... Could have gotten ugly real easy....

I think Tom Hallion (the base umpire) was perfectly fine in doing what he did. He simply told the catcher he has to catch that pitch (to protect the umpire), and, as an MLB catcher, is certainly expected (by the umpire) to catch that pitch --- he's not accusing him of missing in on purpose. It looks like Hallion thinks the pitcher and catcher were not on the same page (signs), because he adds to the comment by pointing at the pitcher, which probably means "get together with your pitcher and make sure you have the signs correct." Hallion was not screaming at the catcher. He was just stating the obvious --- and protecting his partner.

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Does anyone else think that the base umpire who came in and talked to Rosario was a little out of line??? Almost as if he was accusing him of not catching it on purpose??

It appears that it started to get a bit chippy there and then the pitcher came in and then Jim Tracy.... Could have gotten ugly real easy....

I think Tom Hallion (the base umpire) was perfectly fine in doing what he did. He simply told the catcher he has to catch that pitch (to protect the umpire), and, as an MLB catcher, is certainly expected (by the umpire) to catch that pitch --- he's not accusing him of missing in on purpose. It looks like Hallion thinks the pitcher and catcher were not on the same page (signs), because he adds to the comment by pointing at the pitcher, which probably means "get together with your pitcher and make sure you have the signs correct." Hallion was not screaming at the catcher. He was just stating the obvious --- and protecting his partner.

Agreed. Not accusing, more of a "you gotta be kidding me" thing. And Tracy, nevermind what he said to "your player," just get back in the dugout unless you're out here to ask how Fairchild is.

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Does anyone else think that the base umpire who came in and talked to Rosario was a little out of line??? Almost as if he was accusing him of not catching it on purpose??

It appears that it started to get a bit chippy there and then the pitcher came in and then Jim Tracy.... Could have gotten ugly real easy....

I think Tom Hallion (the base umpire) was perfectly fine in doing what he did. He simply told the catcher he has to catch that pitch (to protect the umpire), and, as an MLB catcher, is certainly expected (by the umpire) to catch that pitch --- he's not accusing him of missing in on purpose. It looks like Hallion thinks the pitcher and catcher were not on the same page (signs), because he adds to the comment by pointing at the pitcher, which probably means "get together with your pitcher and make sure you have the signs correct." Hallion was not screaming at the catcher. He was just stating the obvious --- and protecting his partner.

Agreed. Not accusing, more of a "you gotta be kidding me" thing. And Tracy, nevermind what he said to "your player," just get back in the dugout unless you're out here to ask how Fairchild is.

I don't disagree with you guys.... I think when Tracy came out, depending on what he said and his attitude, it could have gotten a bit out of hand?

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Ouch.

Hallion was not out of line for telling the catcher he's got to catch it. If anything it is stating the obvious. I don't think anybody there would have seen it as accusatory.

As for Tracey I understand him coming out if an umpire says something to one of his players, but he'd better make it quick.

With Rackley, I'm hardly surprised, Fairchild was replaced. MLB is so attune to concussions I'm actually surprised given the apparent severity of the hit that he continued. But they are going to make sure he is medically cleared to return.

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I gotta disagree, I think he was a little out of line for talking to the catcher. Its not the catcher's responsibility to "protect the umpire". I mean even at the highest levels things happen..signals get crossed, or they just plain miss the ball, unless of course you suspect something intentional happening.

Don't get me wrong I've taken quite a few straight to the mask totally, missed by the catcher, as I'm sure we all have, but I just think it happens.

I've always found it strange how in games when I take a shot off the mask or somewhere on my body, people always ask "you OK blue?", but when the catcher gets dinged nobody ever says a word, but they're just as much at risk as the umps are.

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Mudder have you lost your fricking mind?!! :banghead: I don't know who your mentor was but either he forgot to teach you about "unwritten rules" or you chose to ignore him! That has got to be the most asinine statement I have heard in along time! :WTF Hallion didn't say he missed it on purpose just, to use my on words, catch the damn ball. Let me know after a catcher ole's a ball in the dirt and you get it somewher with no protection. Unreal!

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I've always found it strange how in games when I take a shot off the mask or somewhere on my body, people always ask "you OK blue?", but when the catcher gets dinged nobody ever says a word, but they're just as much at risk as the umps are.

Well, let me see if I can clear that up for you....

F2: 1) He's allowed - nay, encouraged - to move to catch a pitch and play his position. 2) He has a frigging glove. 3) At the MLB level, he's paid handsomely to catch pitches, especially a simple fast ball.

Umpire: 1) No glove. 2) Required to hold his ground to make calls.

Hope that helps.

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