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To tell the truth I am not sure about NCAA but in FED a runner can not slide past the bag and make contact with the fielder.

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To tell the truth I am not sure about NCAA but in FED a runner can not slide past the bag and make contact with the fielder.

I've got this legal.

In NCAA you can go straight through the bag. (Different from FED)

What drew my attention was the raised foot. It wasn't above the knee so legal but not very sportsmanlike.

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You can slide thru, you can popup, but maybe you can't slide thru and then popup.

To me it's a subsequent action to the slide. I have no problem with the call especially if it was ruled intentional interference and not a FPSR violation.

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You can slide thru, you can popup, but maybe you can't slide thru and then popup.

I dont have my books here but I think you can and the popup was still on the base or close enough for goverment work. lol.

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looks like he rolled after contact with the bag

There was nothing remotely close to a roll. For a roll, a runner's body has to be (close to) perpendicular to the direction of advance

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You cannot slide past the bag and make contact with the fielder. To me, this is a good call. Don't get me wrong, you can slide beyond the bag in NCAA, but if you do, you cannot make contact with the fielder and alter his play.....

That's not how I read the NCAA rule.

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You cannot slide past the bag and make contact with the fielder. To me, this is a good call. Don't get me wrong, you can slide beyond the bag in NCAA, but if you do, you cannot make contact with the fielder and alter his play.....

Thats true in HS but not in NCAA. In NCAA the diagram in the book and the rule clearly indicate that that the runner can continue his slide in a straight line beyond the base toward left field in this example and make contact. The fielder is protected only to the sides of the base.

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You cannot slide past the bag and make contact with the fielder. To me, this is a good call. Don't get me wrong, you can slide beyond the bag in NCAA, but if you do, you cannot make contact with the fielder and alter his play.....

Chris in NCAA you can.. the fielder is protected on the side of the bag he is fielding the throw...

Maybe the umpire saw something else?...

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"Johnnyg08, can you post the graphic and the rule please?" No problem fellas...for your viewing and reading pleasure:

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The intent of the force-play-slide rule is to ensure the safety of all players. This is a safety and an interference rule. Whether the defense could have completed the double play has no bearing on the applicability of this rule. This rule pertains to a force-play situation at any base, regardless of the number of outs.

Art. a.

On any force play, the runner must slide on the ground before the base and in a direct line between the two bases. It is permissible for the slider's momentum to carry him through the base in the baseline extended (see diagram).

Exception - A runner need not slide directly into a base as long as the runner slides or runs in a direction away from the fielder to avoid making contact or altering the play of the fielder. Interference shall not be called.

(1) "On the ground" means either a head-first slide or a slide with one leg and buttock on the ground before the base.

(2) "Directly into a base" means the runner's entire body (feet, legs, trunk and arms) must stay in a straight line between the bases.

Art. b.

Contact with a fielder is legal and interference shall not be called if the runner makes a legal slide directly to the base and in the baseline extended (see diagram).

A.R. - If contact occurs on top of the base as a result of a "pop-up" slide, this contact is legal.

Art. c.

Actions by a runner are illegal and interference shall be called if:

(1) The runner slides or runs out of the base line in the direction of the fielder and alters the play of a fielder (with or without contact);

(2) The runner uses a rolling or cross-body slide and either makes contact with or alters the play of a fielder;

(3) The runner's raised leg makes contact higher than the fielder's knee when in a standing position;

(4) The runner slashes or kicks the fielder with either leg; or

(5) The runner illegally slides toward or contacts the fielder even if the fielder makes no attempt to throw to complete a play.

Penalty for 1 through 5 - (1) With less than two outs, the batter-runner, as well as the interfering runner, shall be declared out and no other runner(s) shall advance.

(2) With two outs, the interfering runner shall be declared out and no other runner(s) shall advance.

(3) If the runner's slide or collision is flagrant, the runner shall be ejected from the contest.

A.R. - If the bases are loaded with no outs, a double-play attempt is made, and interference is called, all other runners must return to their original bases.

Note: On a force play, with a two-man umpiring system, if the plate umpire does not have a potential play at the plate, he should move toward the base to observe the runner going into second or third base. In this situation, the base umpire must follow the throw and may not see the true effect of the lead runner's action.

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I've been scouring my tivo files for a few plays...and that play is on my list.

These are great for learning...glad other people enjoy them b/c they take a lot of time.


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