YSBA Sh!tSHow

[benrosen]

I think this is better posted here rather than in the EJ forums.

14u rep hardball, 1st of 4 scheduled games for the day. I'm BU and my partner is good friend of mine with a notoriously bad strike zone, so he's not foreign to arguments from coaches. All game the VT coaches are shaking their heads, muttering to themselves and parents, a few chirps but nothing EJ worthy, although I could see the blood was boiling. Top of fourth 1 out fresh batter. First pitch comes in my partner calls "STRIKE 3!" punch out and 3 RATS immediately go after him, right in his face "WADDA' YA MEAN STRIKE 3 :blah" so I immediately rush in, break it up and tell my partner it's a fresh batter(he had 2-2 on his indicator and never reset it from the previous batter, btw have any of you ever had this situation?) , so count becomes 0-1, people calm down, play resumes. Top 7th now tie game. VT batting, 2 out go-ahead run on 3rd. 0-2 count pitch comes in clearly in the dirt all the way, PU calls "Strike 3". 3rd base rat comes storming down the line gets in his face "THAT PITCH WAS IN THE DIRT NOT EVEN CLOSE" bends down puts his hand in the dirt to show where the pitch was then picks up a handful of dirt and shoves in his face (didn't throw it at him or anything, more like 'see, this is what dirt looks like '). Then the 1st base rat comes down the line shouting "BRUTAL! BRUTAL! YOUR TERRIBLE! :blah"

Then this fat, old TD comes storming out onto the field and says : "Hey, what kind of SH*# is that!?! What kind of SH*# is that ?!? You call the guy out in the dirt and then you dump the coach?! Now hes out of the next round of games because of you!! I've been umpiring 57 years and that is just ridiculous! What kind of f@&king SH*# is that!?!" and then as he leaves the field all the VT fans give him a standing ovation like hes some sort of hero.

The TD who came on to the field ended up being "disciplined" and was relieved of his duties. This was the 2nd Sh!tshow of my umpiring career, and if it wasn't the first game of the day we would've simply left the field.

[JaxRolo]

I'm BU and my partner is good friend of mine with a notoriously bad strike zone, so he's not foreign to arguments from coaches.

If he is notoriously bad then why is he allowed to work? Do you need Umps that badly?

[benrosen]

If he is notoriously bad then why is he allowed to work? Do you need Umps that badly?

He's not brutal, he can be a good umpire

And to answer your question yes we need umpires

[dumbdumb]

Canada apparently goes by some 1-5 level system. What level is he? Cause if he's a 3, ump_24 better get his 4.

Developing better officials is one of the goals of the National Officials Certification Program (NOCP) a nation-wide standardized program. Five levels of competency provide officials with the necessary instruction to officiate from club sports all the up to International competition. The program is sport specific, and baseball's five levels are divided in the following manner: Umpires at all levels must recertify every year.

NOTE: A clinic host MUST provide Sask Baseball with a minimum of $350.00 in revenue for each clinic.

Level I

*No experience required

*Must obtain 60% or more on exam

*Eligible to officiate regional minor ball

*Cost: $35.00 - Minors $40.00 Adults

Level II

*Must have Level I for a minimum of 1 year

*Must attend a Level II clinic

*Must obtain 70% or more on exam

*Eligible to officiate local and provincial minor ball

*May be randomly evaluated

*Cost $55.00

Level III

*Must have Level II for a minimum of 1 year

*Must attend a Level III clinic

*Must obtain 80% or more on exam

*Eligible to officiate all provincial baseball. Must be at least 18 years of age during current year to officiate at the major level. Eligible for Western Canadian competition.

*Must pass two on-field evaluations

*Cost $85.00

Level IV

*Must have Level III for one full year, and have officiated for a minimum of 5 years

*Must attend a Level IV clinic

*Must obtain 86% or more on exam

*Eligible to officiate national championships. Must be at least 18 years of age during current year to officiate at this level.

*Must pass two on-field evaluations (1 plate, 1 base) with a passing grade of 86% on the evaluations to maintain Level IV, must write exam every three years with passing grade of 86% or more

*Cost TBA Annually

Level V

*Same as Level IV, but must have participated in at least two minor national championships (Pee Wee, Bantam, Midget) and at least one major national championship (Selects, Junior, Senior and Canada Games) to be Level V "AA", and had at least one international assignment to be Level V "AAA"

Edited August 3, 2010 by dumbdumb

[benrosen]

lol he's a 1. I'm level 3 btw

[spiritumpa]

the umpire you worked with is a person you never want to work with--you say he is level 1 with that zone--the trouble is he probably thinks he is good and does not try to get better. You sound new and it seems you want to get better--my advice is to not work with him ever, turn down the assignment--let the assigner know you will not work with him ever--you will see others will follow your lead and either he will work at getting better and if he does not at least you will never have to deal with the problems that working a game with him bring.

[Thunderheads]

lol he's a 1. I'm level 3 btw

Nice to know a level 1 can call strikes in the dirt :wow:

[Stan W.]

This was the 2nd Sh!tshow of my umpiring career,

Just so you know.........no fan ever leaves the game saying that umpire was horrible..........they all leave the game saying those umpires were horrible.....

right or wrong we all get lumped in when our partners drag us down the slope with them...

[benrosen]

Just so you know.........no fan ever leaves the game saying that umpire was horrible..........they all leave the game saying those umpires were horrible.....

right or wrong we all get lumped in when our partners drag us down the slope with them...

Believe me I know that all too well

[yawetag]

I find it funny that you censor f***k, but not s**t.

[kwiggie]

Just so you know.........no fan ever leaves the game saying that umpire was horrible..........they all leave the game saying those umpires were horrible.....

+1 , it sucks, but it is "ohhh sooo true"

[tiger49]

lol he's a 1. I'm level 3 btw

A level 1 is not allowed to do rep above Mosquito (12u). This guy is way over his head. I can't believe that YSBA would allow that to happen at a Tournament no less.

In tournaments in Ontario the TD has to fill out a sheet listing all umpires used in the tournament and this must be signed by all umpires as well.

[MPLSMatt]

I don't care how bad the strike 3 call was, a TD who runs onto the field cursing out an umpire (especially over two obviously ejectable offenses) needs to be done with baseball for a long, long time. What a jackass.

Still, punching out a batter on the first pitch is inexcusable. I've punched a guy on a 3 and 1 pitch but to do it on the first pitch shows that you are paying no attention. All that said, you argue balls and strikes, start picking up dirt, shove it in the umpires face no matter how bad the call is you are asking to get tossed. It just show's that the TD has no baseball sense to say it's the umpire's fault the coaches were tossed.

[Aging_Arbiter]

We all see from time to time about the coaches or parents who physically attack umpires or other sports officials. I'm just waiting for the day where the headlines read "Umpire has enough" and the article goes on to talk about how a "rat" came running down the 3rd base line to argue a call in the dirt, and the umpire SNAPS (naturally a former Marine, or Green Beret or disgruntled postal employee.....you get the idea) reverts to his military training....blah blah blah... I'm thinking that it's just a matter of time.

[Pete Peterson Sr]

(naturally a former Marine, or Green Beret or disgruntled postal employee.....you get the idea) reverts to his military training....blah blah blah... I'm thinking that it's just a matter of time.

How cool....I never knew postal employees received military training ! :rollinglaugh:

[Replacematt]

We all see from time to time about the coaches or parents who physically attack umpires or other sports officials. I'm just waiting for the day where the headlines read "Umpire has enough" and the article goes on to talk about how a "rat" came running down the 3rd base line to argue a call in the dirt, and the umpire SNAPS (naturally a former Marine, or Green Beret or disgruntled postal employee.....you get the idea) reverts to his military training....blah blah blah... I'm thinking that it's just a matter of time.

Almost happened four years ago. I was two weeks back from 16 months in a lovely sandbox, and tossed an AC (in his dugout) who yelled at me (BU, in neutral position between innings) that I had missed two of the three calls that half inning. HC accused me of being on a power trip. I informed him (tactfully, of course) that I had just been dealing with far more important issues than a baseball game for a fair amount of my life, and if I wanted power, I'd go back to that. He then replied with a sarcastic "Woo-hoo." Pretty sure that BU was the only reason I didn't clock HC, since he was on my right side.

[mstaylor]

Just get rid of him, make everybody's life easier. Now when he follows you to your car, pound him.

I had a league official ask me once if I wanted the cops called for the end of the game. I had tossed a coach who then threatened me. I had him escorted off the property. When he asked if I wanted the police I asked why. He was worried the coach would come back. I told him if he did I would stomp him. The site guy says if I was comfortable with that OK.