My First!

[yawetag]

After grounding into the last out of the game, [player] forcefully threw his helmet to the ground. I immediately ejected him. No further incident occurred after the ejection.

[NFUA_44]

[semper_fi_72]

After grounding into the last out of the game, [player] forcefully threw his helmet to the ground. I immediately ejected him. No further incident occurred after the ejection.

HTBT and depends on the level.

Last out of the game, IDK.

If he is pissed for being the last out, I am walking off the field and have no ejection.

If he throws the helmet in response to the call on the last out then yes, I have an ejection.

You can not remove all emotion from the game.

[Forest Ump]

Your first what?

1st of the year?

1st ever?

1st player?

1st end of the game?

1st ejection post?

1st one since Monday?

[yawetag]

1st ever?

This.

[JaxRolo]

1st ever?

This.

Don't take this personally but I don't think it was a good one.

Last out. If it wasn't directed at my call I would leave it alone.

[PeteBooth]

After grounding into the last out of the game, [player] forcefully threw his helmet to the ground. I immediately ejected him. No further incident occurred after the ejection.

In a way your OP makes no sense especially this part "No further incident occurred after the ejection." It was the last play of the game therefore, there should be no further incident. As mentioned the aforementioned statement makes no sense.

I agree with the others on the EJ. As long as the helmet throwing was not at me or thrown at disgust on my call - leave it alone. Let the coach handle it. If the kid breaks/cracks enough helmets and either he or his parents have to pay for it he might learn.

Pete Booth

[grayhawk]

I saw the EXACT same thing happen in a Little League Junior TOC game. According to U1, the helmet slam was accompanied by an F Bomb. He immediately ejected him as well. I think it was the right thing to do in a LL Juniors game.

[NFUA_44]

After grounding into the last out of the game, [player] forcefully threw his helmet to the ground. I immediately ejected him. No further incident occurred after the ejection.

I somehow can't see this particular poster taking the highlighted action without it being directed towards him. yawetag is normally a pretty level headed guy. I realize you can't take the emotion out of the game, and there's plenty of times it's best to let sleeping dogs lie, but this is also behavior that has to be handled. Sometimes the ejection can be the impetus to getting the coach and/or parents to step up and fix the problem, ignoring it isn't going to make it any better.

[Umpire in Chief]

I say it is a HTBT situation. So much goes into the decision to pull the trigger.

Before saying good or bad ejection I'd have to know the environment, "feel" of the game, any history and if you felt it was directed at you or himself.

[yawetag]

The play wasn't close at 1B and, except for getting beat badly, there was no history in the game. There was no expletive with the throw and it wasn't obviously directed at me or the call. However, it was thrown. Hard. It was hard enough that after ejecting him and beginning to walk away, a player from the other team said to his teammate, "That's not a good way to treat your helmet."

I knew after I did it that the feelings would be mixed, primarily along the "Was it directed at you?" dividing line. I'm not one to rush an ejection, as this my first in five years of umpiring. I don't begrudge anyone for feeling differently, especially given the circumstances. Given the same situation, I would eject again.

[zm1283]

The play wasn't close at 1B and, except for getting beat badly, there was no history in the game. There was no expletive with the throw and it wasn't obviously directed at me or the call. However, it was thrown. Hard. It was hard enough that after ejecting him and beginning to walk away, a player from the other team said to his teammate, "That's not a good way to treat your helmet."

I knew after I did it that the feelings would be mixed, primarily along the "Was it directed at you?" dividing line. I'm not one to rush an ejection, as this my first in five years of umpiring. I don't begrudge anyone for feeling differently, especially given the circumstances. Given the same situation, I would eject again.

You only regret it when you don't pull the trigger. I dumped a player in a D2 game for a two-hand spike of his helmet. Good job.

[mstaylor]

In a way your OP makes no sense especially this part "No further incident occurred after the ejection." It was the last play of the game therefore, there should be no further incident. As mentioned the aforementioned statement makes no sense.

Sure it makes sense. Andrew threw a player and the player took it. He didn't come back with further language, no further equipment throwing or anything physical. Whether anybody thinks it is a good toss or a bad toss is a personal choice but noting that the altercation wasn't continued is important. The other thing to remember is it has been drilled into his head to state the facts and do it in the least amount of words possible. In stiving toward directness and brevity he may have confused you in what he meant.

[zm1283]

Mike,

The NCAA ejection report asks specifically if anything happened after the ejection, so your point is a good one.

[boyinr]

I got my first two ejections of my umpiring career at a BR State play-off game. The first was an assistant coach (first base coach) that rushed towards me to protest an out call on a banger at first. Two other close plays had gone against them earlier in the game. He had been previously warned. The second was a player that just could hold his comments once the game was over and he thought he could say whatever he wanted. It was a chippy game from the outset with both teams (and fans) being very verbal. The game time temperature was 90+ and an elimination game that ended 3-2 and that is a ready made recipe. At least the game only went 1:50.

[NCAAump2]

I agree with a few others on here...I don't think I would have tossed him for this, especially being the last out of the game AND not directed at your call. Any other time I would probably agree with it, but I'd let it go.

[persong]

It's an easy lesson to teach a kid. Next game he gets a big out at first maybe in the 4th inning tie game bases loaded. He will think twice about throwing the helmet. I am ok with the eject myself. What do you have to lose here by ejection.