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Situation: Bases loaded, 2 outs. Batter hits ground ball to 2nd baseman. Baseman tries to tag out runner going to second, base runner avoids tag but runs out of baseline and is called out for leaving basepath by field umpire. Plate umpire watches runner from 3rd cross home plate before base path violation occurs. Does the run count due to timing play or is the run discounted due to the force out?

no play was made on BR and he reached base safely. Happy 

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It’s still a force play no matter how the forced runner is out before reaching his forced to base. 

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16 minutes ago, Richvee said:

It’s still a force play no matter how the forced runner is out. Secondly, the batter runner did not reach 1b safely, therefore no run can score. 

Agree.

 

Disagree (at least as stated in the OP -- there's no mention of a play on BR)

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OP - R1, R2, R3. Ball hit to F4 who attempts to tag R2 (forced runner) who is called out for deviating from the base path.

So as a few above mentioned, not a play on the BR, but this is still a forced runner who was called out prior to safely reaching the bag he was forced to.

3 outs, no run scores.

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When a batter hits into a fielder’s choice that ends an inning the batter is shown as reaching first on that FC and is officially counted as a runner left on base (LOB)—see 2019 OBR rule 9.02(g).

(g) Number of runners left on base by each team. This total shall include all runners who get on base by any means and who do not score and are not put out. The Official Scorer shall include in this total a batter-runner whose batted ball results in another runner being retired for the third out.

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On 4/20/2019 at 9:41 PM, Richvee said:

It’s still a force play no matter how the forced runner is out. Secondly, the batter runner did not reach 1b safely, therefore no run can score

Sure he did. He became a runner and he wasn't out.  If he didn't reach then he leads off the next inning - but he doesn't because he became a runner.

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5 hours ago, Rich Ives said:

Sure he did. He became a runner and he wasn't out.  If he didn't reach then he leads off the next inning - but he doesn't because he became a runner.

I got it. Acknowledged my error. 

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