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I'm getting pissed at myself .....

 

2 outs, .... runners on 2nd and 3rd ..... batter hits a triple to left center field.

Batter runner misses second base on his way to 3rd and the defense successfully appeals.

How many runs score?

2

1

None

:banghead:

Posted
2 minutes ago, Thunderheads said:

I'm getting pissed at myself .....

 

2 outs, .... runners on 2nd and 3rd ..... batter hits a triple to left center field.

Batter runner misses second base on his way to 3rd and the defense successfully appeals.

How many runs score?

2

1

None

:banghead:

More than likely 2. It's a time play. 

Posted
34 minutes ago, Jimurray said:

More than likely 2. It's a time play. 

Well ....... :bang::tantrum::censored: ..........

In reading 9-1-1 ...EXCEPTION: A run is not scored if the runner advances to home plate during action in which the third out is made as follows:

c. by a preceding runner who is declared out upon appeal because he failed to touch one of the bases of left a base too soon on a cuaght fly ball; or
d. when a third out is declared during a play resulting from a valid defensive appeal, which results in a force out 

misread / remembered /interpreted ....  

SO .... in "d" ... what would be that situation with a force out?   I understand my situation/question is a TIME play, but .........

Posted

The batter is not forced to go to 2nd base, so the out on appeal for missing 2nd base would not be considered a force out. Thus, all runs from the batted ball count, unless the batter was appealed before R2 crosses home. In that case, only 1 run scores. 

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Posted
11 minutes ago, ilyazhito said:

The batter is not forced to go to 2nd base, so the out on appeal for missing 2nd base would not be considered a force out. Thus, all runs from the batted ball count, unless the batter was appealed before R2 crosses home. In that case, only 1 run scores. 

Ok, I see, so only if a runner who was being forced misses a base is where no runs score .......geez, I got it ....wow :shakehead:

Posted
7 minutes ago, Thunderheads said:

Ok, I see, so only if a runner who was being forced misses a base is where no runs score .......geez, I got it ....wow :shakehead:

And:

"EXCEPTION: A run is not scored if the runner advances to home plate during action in which the third out is made as follows:

a. by the batter-runner before he touches first base; or"

 

"a" sometimes improperly called a force and actually called a force in a FED caseplay.

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Posted
12 minutes ago, Thunderheads said:

Ok, I see, so only if a runner who was being forced misses a base is where no runs score .......geez, I got it ....wow :shakehead:

and the lights are on!!

See the source image

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Posted
4 hours ago, Thunderheads said:

I'm getting pissed at myself .....

 

2 outs, .... runners on 2nd and 3rd ..... batter hits a triple to left center field.

Batter runner misses second base on his way to 3rd and the defense successfully appeals.

How many runs score?

2

1

None

:banghead:

Change the play. Same sitch but, R3 misses home. 

Posted
On 3/22/2019 at 11:59 AM, Aging_Arbiter said:

Change the head banging on the wall. Keep the wall..

You are having far to much fun on this particular thread!

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