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Jomboy says, “Time out, Time out”.

Is the word “opportunity” actually in the rule? The reason I ask is, the batter still has the opportunity, it’s just not the desired action we want taken in order to penalize. What is the alternative? Start cracking catchers in the head? Maybe the alternative is for coaches to start teaching hitters to do their job.

Doesn’t a legal pitch have to cross HP? I too believe the rule could be tweaked for a squeeze play, mainly because the batter is most likely not swinging.

After watching the video again, I must say, this has to be called to remain consistent with the rule and its purpose! In my first watch the movements seemed simultaneous. In the second, F2 definitely moves into the batters swing path and creates an advantage by getting 2ft closer to make a tag. Textbook CI/CO Damn it, now I think I have to go recant a previous post! Congrats @johnnyg08 You got 3 pages out of it lol

If the batter bails with no intent, what was obstructed?

My question would be, WTF are the coaches doing? This seems to be a strategy to draw a CI and/or balk call, so WHY are your batters backing out? It’s impossible to say what would have happened in the first video what F2 would have done if the batter didn’t back out, but if he did the same thing, maybe it makes the call a no brainer. I have nothing! In the second video, just low IQ’s all around. Squeeze play with a lefty?! Thoughts @beerguy55

This is what I assumed.

Aren’t you allowed to overrun 1st?

So the quoted mechanic in the FED UM posted should be disregarded? Can you tell me when that language appeared? I don’t have access to previous books.

@maven @noumpere @lawump others. Do you agree with the UM?

It was OBS anyway! 😉

I was adamant to disregard but some seem to hang onto every word as tho it is set in stone. You know, the guys who make it up as they go but then point to the book and say, see! Lol I believe their philosophy is as seeingeye, well sure, you CAN do it. Well, I guess that’s FED’s philosophy too!

I was shown the posted mechanic in the UM at our meeting last night which I never heard of before. I’m with you and @Replacematt I also was going to respond to @SeeingEyeDog but he did it for me. Was just curious how long this so called “Advance mechanic “ has been in the UM. ?

That's not the question. A foul ball YES. I'm talking about a caught foul tip. If the PU has a foul ball but the BU has a catch, BU is suppose to come out and immediately call it a catch?

Learn something new every day! I love the way they hid this. lol Does anyone have an older version to track how long this has been in there?

Looking for clarification on a FED mechanic stated in the Umpires Manual. Is it true that the BU, on a foul tip caught by the catcher can be automatically called? Similar to the "voluntary strike". If so, can you tell me when this was implemented?

Possibly a specific ground rule for this park? Or, someone screwed the pooch!

Truly not sure it is in the book. It is however an adoption in PA, on or off the rubber.

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Sounds like he’s saying, based on your examples, there has to be a pitch for a BALL, not a balk.