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Advancing retreating runner


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R1 takes lead off 1B, and pitcher steps off back of rubber and throws over to 1B. The pickoff attempt hits R1 in helmet and surprisingly ricochets 20 feet over the fence and out of play. 

I awarded R1 two bases from time of throw. 

DHC argues it should have been only been one base awarded because he was retreating back to 1B. 

Did I get that right?

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When he properly disengages the rubber he becomes a fielder.  Thus you got it right.

 

 

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1 hour ago, umpstu said:

When he properly disengages the rubber he becomes a fielder.

 

 

Does this include a quick-move to first? what if he hadnt stepped off back first, is that a proper disengagement?

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12 minutes ago, Nic said:

Does this include a quick-move to first? what if he hadnt stepped off back first, is that a proper disengagement?

The quick “jab step” move when the pivot foot moves but it’s in front of rubber is still considered to be on the rubber. So if the ball goes out of play on this it’s only a one base award. Furthermore, as this is considered from the rubber the pitcher must complete the throw. 

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3 hours ago, Nic said:

 

DHC argues it should have been only been one base awarded because he was retreating back to 1B. 

 

This is one of the more common myths of the baseball rules. It is a myth. The direction the runner was moving in means nothing. The award is from the last base that runner legally attained. If you search this site you will find posts with lists of these myths and misunderstood rules.

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The award is NOT "the base you're going to plus one more" -- it's "two bases from the base last reached."

To be fair, it's certainly possible that the coach has seen the former enforced.

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