Getting from C position to A, on a routine ground ball to Shortstop. Can u make it there??

[The1yankee]

I had the first base coach snip at me, for not getting from C spot to the A spot on a 2-3 hopper, not hit that hard. He claimed 1st basemen pulled his foot off bag. Went to my plate partner for help, he didn't make a call, upholding My out call, as he said 1st base pulled up heel during stretch, but got heel back onto base, before for batter-runner reached 1st.

It's my 1st year of umpiring, but....On a high school sized field, it seems to me, it would be very difficult to:

A) Get from C spot to somewhere in area of A spot, to get angle on a pulled foot at 1st

B)Get over to 1st base area, to get any kind of angle on the play, where I can see 1st baseman pull foot.

 

I pulled coach over after next inning n asked em,

How he thought I could make it from C slot, to an angle to read 1st baseman foot off bag, he told me he's umped before, and I CAN MAKE IT OVER TO A, FROM C, on routine grounder to shortstop.

Unless I'm a fullsize giraffe, I see no way to get from C slot to A. Options being;

1)Sprint full speed to A spot

2)Get my head and body stopped from that full out Sprint

3)So...My opinion, To get body n head woed down to a stop, from a full sprint, n get in position to make call, seems highly unlikely to achieve

Imho that is.

 

Can somebody clarify this?

There was a runner at 2nd

plate ump, has is touch of 3rd, AND, A PULL OF FOOT BY FIELDER AT 1ST, CORRECT??!!?

[JaxRolo]

What am I missing here?

C to A ??

[Aging_Arbiter]

c'mon @JaxRolo, you meant what he knew.  Remember, this is coming from a coach that used to umpire, so you have to sift through the "I think I know what I'm talking about" language.

[BT_Blue]

I don't recall if this was brought up or not. But we do need to add that, yes, PU has the touch at 3rd of R2. BUT NOT ANY PLAY BACK INTO 3RD. That inbthe base umpire's job. So this idiot coach doesn't have a clue (shocker... I know) since you need to be able to rule on any play back into third.

[The1yankee]

On 5/10/2018 at 10:33 PM, HokieUmp said:

Feel free to use the following:

"Well, good for you, sport.  When you're umpiring, you do you.  But tonight, you're a coach, so stick to that."

if he's the AC, and not the HC, feel free to add:

"And if you want to argue a call, either let your head coach do it, or plan on a short night."

And then walk away.

Ya he was AC. 

Lol

[The1yankee]

On 5/11/2018 at 12:49 PM, JaxRolo said:

What am I missing here?

C to A ??

Or at least  from C,

over to get an angle on the fielders pull of the foot,  at 1st base, on a force

[JaxRolo]

13 hours ago, The1yankee said:

Or at least  from C,

over to get an angle on the fielders pull of the foot,  at 1st base, on a force

oh so over to "b" ?

[noumpere]

2 minutes ago, JaxRolo said:

oh so over to "b" ?

Depends on how broadly you interpret "B".  B, as a pre-pitch position, is maybe 6' x 6' (being generous).  Where you might be able to / need to get on a play at first is more like 40' x 25' (and, yes, i recognize that they are not really rectangles)

[JaxRolo]

Just now, noumpere said:

Depends on how broadly you interpret "B".  B, as a pre-pitch position, is maybe 6' x 6' (being generous).  Where you might be able to / need to get on a play at first is more like 40' x 25' (and, yes, i recognize that they are not really rectangles)

I understand but "A" is kinda far fetched. lol

[Aging_Arbiter]

23 hours ago, JaxRolo said:

oh so over to "b" ?

b(ish)?

[WilsonFlyer]

I'm still confused over the whole thing. I don't call anything from A anyway unless it's fair/foul down the line, and certainly never with a two-man crew.

BTW, for any of you that actually can get from B or C to A to make a call, and I'm still not sure why you would, be sure to look to your right. There's a freight train coming down the tracks.