Play at the Plate - Discuss

[Tborze]

9 minutes ago, maven said:

 

Yes, I had OBS in real time.

By focusing on when and where the runner slid, you're making the call harder and more obscure than it need be.

The fielder blocked access to the base without possessing the ball. That's all we need to see.

 

If that ^ is your judgement, fine. Just not as cut and dry as you make it to be. IMJ < several others have judged it differently as well, including the PU on the play.

Anyway, enough said by me on this. 

PS: As you probably have noticed I'm new on this site and have read many posts by you and others, and would like to say you know your sh*t, and have agreed with you on all, except this one peace

[noumpere]

1 hour ago, Tborze said:

Noticed this is the first time you chimed in. What's your opinion?

On the play in this thread?  I have no opinion.  I didn't watch the video and I have no plans to do so.  I will say that some calls are such that "either" call could be supported -- this might be one.

[ALStripes17]

If that ^ is your judgement, fine. Just not as cut and dry as you make it to be. IMJ Anyway, enough said by me on this. 
PS: As you probably have noticed I'm new on this site and have read many posts by you and others, and would like to say you know your sh*t, and have agreed with you on all, except this one:cool: peace

One umpire on this thread has stuck to his no-call in FED. One other originally said no OBS and has considered that it could be.


The calling umpire in the video is calling by NCAA rules so his interpretation is out regarding FED.


I would bet on the fact that FED wants this as OBS, and is more easily defended by the rules than is any other scenario.


OBS in FED is not just denying access. It still encompasses hindering or altering the path of the runner. Just some food for thought.

[dumbdumb]

Well, since the ball hit the catchers mitt when the runner was still on the turf with both feet, the catcher certainly had the right to be able to squat down in front of the plate with the ball to tag the runner, I would assume in NCAA although I do not know that to be a fact.

The obvious problem becomes the fact that the ball hit the glove and popped out, rather than popping out due to contact. So, popping out as the catcher goes to make the tag versus popping out due to contact from the runner becomes the question.

Since by the box score, the Home plate umpire has worked the 1999 D1 World Series and other SR's and R's, and also has the best umpire in the crew at 1st base, who did not work a plate job in the series, and a former Arizona Fall League and MLB Spring training invitee at 3rd base to get "help" from, who are 90 feet or more away, just like a on pulled foot at 1st base and getting help from the PU who has to be 90 feet or more from 1st base at times, I see no problem with going with the umpiring crew on this call.

[ALStripes17]

Well, since the ball hit the catchers mitt when the runner was still on the turf with both feet, the catcher certainly had the right to be able to squat down in front of the plate with the ball to tag the runner, I would assume in NCAA although I do not know that to be a fact.
The obvious problem becomes the fact that the ball hit the glove and popped out, rather than popping out due to contact. So, popping out as the catcher goes to make the tag versus popping out due to contact from the runner becomes the question.
Since by the box score, the Home plate umpire has worked the 1999 D1 World Series and other SR's and R's, and also has the best umpire in the crew at 1st base, who did not work a plate job in the series, and a former Arizona Fall League and MLB Spring training invitee at 3rd base to get "help" from, who are 90 feet or more away, just like a on pulled foot at 1st base and getting help from the PU who has to be 90 feet or more from 1st base at times, I see no problem with going with the umpiring crew on this call.

I agree based on NCAA rules.

[johnnyg08]

On 3/23/2017 at 10:23 AM, maven said:

True enough.

But not only that: unlike plays at 1B or tag plays on the bases (of which we see many), we might go a week or more without a close play at the plate.

Without much practice, it's difficult to acquire a skill.

That's what makes video study so important and critical to being successful on the field we might have a handful of these plays in an entire career.