HBP called by BU

[refump10]

I had a similar sit happen to me last week.  R2, I'm in C.1-2 count.  Pitch is a curve that hits the back foot of a left-handed batter and careens off toward the screen near the 3B dugout. BR takes off for 1B indicating he got hit.  After some hesitation R2 takes off and eventually scores, and  BR ends up at 2B.  All while my partner has nothing. The defensive coaches make a statement to my partner that there was a HBP.  I kept waiting for him to come to me, but crickets.  (I will mention that the game was long-decided at this point and we are just trying to get to the mercy rule in the next inning and that the defensive team was just as eager to get out of it as the rest of us)

I'm sure had the game been close, we would have had a different experience.  My partner that day is a good umpire, and we talked about after the game. I apologized to him for not giving help, and he said he wished he'd come to me for help.  Luckily, it didn't cost anybody anything, but I'm still kicking myself for not getting involved.  Thanks James for the quote from the Umpire Bible.

[Replacematt]

1 hour ago, refump10 said:

I had a similar sit happen to me last week.  R2, I'm in C.1-2 count.  Pitch is a curve that hits the back foot of a left-handed batter and careens off toward the screen near the 3B dugout. BR takes off for 1B indicating he got hit.  After some hesitation R2 takes off and eventually scores, and  BR ends up at 2B.  All while my partner has nothing. The defensive coaches make a statement to my partner that there was a HBP.  I kept waiting for him to come to me, but crickets.  (I will mention that the game was long-decided at this point and we are just trying to get to the mercy rule in the next inning and that the defensive team was just as eager to get out of it as the rest of us)

I'm sure had the game been close, we would have had a different experience.  My partner that day is a good umpire, and we talked about after the game. I apologized to him for not giving help, and he said he wished he'd come to me for help.  Luckily, it didn't cost anybody anything, but I'm still kicking myself for not getting involved.  Thanks James for the quote from the Umpire Bible.

Don't kick yourself. It's not your job. He should have come for help. You can reverse the play to HBP, but you can't call HBP and reverse it.

[MadMax]

3 hours ago, refump10 said:

I had a similar sit happen to me last week.  R2, I'm in C.1-2 count.  Pitch is a curve that hits the back foot of a left-handed batter and careens off toward the screen near the 3B dugout. BR takes off for 1B indicating he got hit.  After some hesitation R2 takes off and eventually scores, and  BR ends up at 2B.  All while my partner has nothing. The defensive coaches make a statement to my partner that there was a HBP.  I kept waiting for him to come to me, but crickets.  (I will mention that the game was long-decided at this point and we are just trying to get to the mercy rule in the next inning and that the defensive team was just as eager to get out of it as the rest of us)

I'm sure had the game been close, we would have had a different experience.  My partner that day is a good umpire, and we talked about after the game. I apologized to him for not giving help, and he said he wished he'd come to me for help.  Luckily, it didn't cost anybody anything, but I'm still kicking myself for not getting involved.  Thanks James for the quote from the Umpire Bible.

Wait. Wait wait wait waaaaaiiiiiiit. You surely should have gotten involved, because – where did BR end up?

If PU truly "has nothing", and that's a wild pitch, then BR should be back in the box, facing a (now) 2-2 count! You should, at the very least, be stepping in to correct that. This then seems like the opportune time to conference with partner and go over what happened. If he's sticking to wild pitch, then BR back in the box; if you're certain you've got a HBP, then say so and the run comes off the board, R2 back to 2B, and B to 1B to become R1.

Any other outcome is a misapplication of the rules. You are an umpiring team, by all means coordinate and act like one. No umpire is omnipotent, nor is any umpire – or man for that matter – an island.

... except when working 9U Solo. You're truly on your own.

[refump10]

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4 hours ago, MadMax said:

Wait. Wait wait wait waaaaaiiiiiiit. You surely should have gotten involved, because – where did BR end up?

If PU truly "has nothing", and that's a wild pitch, then BR should be back in the box, facing a (now) 2-2 count! You should, at the very least, be stepping in to correct that. This then seems like the opportune time to conference with partner and go over what happened. If he's sticking to wild pitch, then BR back in the box; if you're certain you've got a HBP, then say so and the run comes off the board, R2 back to 2B, and B to 1B to become R1.

Any other outcome is a misapplication of the rules. You are an umpiring team, by all means coordinate and act like one. No umpire is omnipotent, nor is any umpire – or man for that matter – an island.

... except when working 9U Solo. You're truly on your own.

PU did bring the batter back.  I'll give him credit for keeping up with all that.  I was kinda hoping he would forget and then I could get together with him to discuss the count.  And also offer my thoughts on the pitch hitting the batter.  But he never did ask for help and the defensive coaches let it go.