Baserunning

[Guest Ripper44]

Bases loaded. Ground ball fair to 3B. Runner stays on the base. 3B fields the ball and tags runner standing on 3B. Is that runner safe or out?

[BuckeyeMike]

Out.  R3 is forced to the next base (home) via the Batter putting a ball into fair play.

[noumpere]

Note that if F5 tags R3, and then steps on the bag, it's a double play -- both R3 and R2 are out.

 

If F5 steps on the bag and then tags R3, only R2 is out -- the force is removed.

 

I know all the umpires know that; sometimes others get confused by it.

[JaxRolo]

Bases loaded. Ground ball fair to 3B. Runner stays on the base. 3B fields the ball and tags runner standing on 3B. Is that runner safe or out?

Out

[maven]

Out.  R3 is forced to the next base (home) via the Batter putting a ball into fair play becoming a runner.

FIFY.

Putting the ball in play is not required for a force play. (A little homework thought experiment for ya!)

[MadMax]

gosh it's early in the morning.

FIFY.

Putting the ball in play is not required for a force play. (A little homework thought experiment for ya!)

Another would be an Uncaught 3rd Strike (U3K).

[noumpere]

Infield Fly

???

An infield fly *is* putting the ball in play.  But (once it's declared) it does not result in a force (or, more accurately, the force is removed).

 

A good "thought experiment" answer to a different question. 

[Mizzou2016]

I was saying that putting the ball in play does not mean there is a force in effect - there are plenty of times that putting the ball in play would not force the runners to advance. Infield fly being the first that came to my mind.

[noumpere]

I was saying that putting the ball in play does not mean there is a force in effect - there are plenty of times that putting the ball in play would not force the runners to advance. Infield fly being the first that came to my mind.

I get it, but that's not the question that was asked.  It's the opposite of what was asked.

[Mizzou2016]

Ok - I was just making a comment. If you want to nitpick, go ahead. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G870A using Tapatalk

[Rich Ives]

Infield Fly

With an IF the batter is out and there are no force plays.

[Mizzou2016]

Out.  R3 is forced to the next base (home) via the Batter putting a ball into fair play.

The original comment is stating that the batter is forced because the batter put it in fair play.

I know I didn't spell it out, but I thought it'd be implied that I was referencing the entire thread, not just the one I quoted originally.

[Mizzou2016]

FIFY.

Putting the ball in play is not required for a force play. (A little homework thought experiment for ya!)

Infield Fly