the new force 3 unequal LG

[conbo61]

Santa arrived earlier this afternoon, but he was dressed as a Fed Ex delivery man for some reason. He also has lost quite a bit of weight, shaved his beard and changed his name to Jose. Am I the only one to find this peculiar? Anyway, he brought me a new pair of Red Ryder bb gun Force 3 Unequal shin guards with a carrying bag and a compass in the straps. I tried them on and wore them for an hour or so. Guys, these are impressive. Very impressive. And as soon as I walked down the street in only a nutty buddy and shin guards my wife made me take them off and come back in the house. Merry Christmas to all of my fellow umpires.

You should post a picture of you wearing them. We can then send it to a plastics manufacturer and we can create the umpire equivalent of a "major award."

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[kylejt]

Sorry to come off as negative, fellas. But when it comes to my safety, I try not to take any chances.

 

I've had my heart rhythm messed up, many years ago, by a ball to the chest. I was wearing a ribbed protector, and the kids were 9/10. Since then, it's been either a Douglas, Riddell, or Wilson. Currently, it's a Platinum, as it has one large piece of hardshell that goes from my sturnum, up and over my shoulder. That would be the best protection, in my book.

 

Again, if the UE material is good enough to protect my ribs and bones over my heart, why isn't it good enough for my kneecap or collarbone? I'm not saying it isn't. And, if it were, that would be a great revolution in protection. No more bulky plastic, just flexable Kevlar. That would be outstanding, and I'd buy two, tomorrow.

 

But the logic escapes me. Why reenforce certain parts with plastic plates, but not others?

[umpstu]

Sorry to come off as negative, fellas. But when it comes to my safety, I try not to take any chances.

 

I've had my heart rhythm messed up, many years ago, by a ball to the chest. I was wearing a ribbed protector, and the kids were 9/10. Since then, it's been either a Douglas, Riddell, or Wilson. Currently, it's a Platinum, as it has one large piece of hardshell that goes from my sturnum, up and over my shoulder. That would be the best protection, in my book.

 

Again, if the UE material is good enough to protect my ribs and bones over my heart, why isn't it good enough for my kneecap or collarbone? I'm not saying it isn't. And, if it were, that would be a great revolution in protection. No more bulky plastic, just flexable Kevlar. That would be outstanding, and I'd buy two, tomorrow.

 

But the logic escapes me. Why reenforce certain parts with plastic plates, but not others?

Kyle, besides the obvious protection you get from the kevlar in the shin guards? I said it before and here it is again. THE WOW FACTOR!!!!!! Who is going to buy boring looking products? If there was no hard shiny plastic on the outside nobody would buy them. As far as the heart issue goes, I had a six way bypass in 2008 and I feel extremely safe in my Force 3. I don't need to hear a big crashing sound to feel safe. I know it every time I take a shot. I had an original West Vest for years and years and nobody can tell me that they don't feel it when they get hit by an 85 mph fast ball. That is just an incorrect statement. The shinguards I don't trust are the All star system 7 lgu 2000. I was hit in the shins twice and it f*&^ng hurt like hell. Bought some Wilsons and sold the All Stars. Also had purchased the All Star cpu 4000 to com[pare with the Force 3 and liked the Force 3 better. Ah, collarbone protection. Look at the hard shells and let me know if you have anymore protection in that small amount of padding? You don't and will have no protection on any chest protector if you do not wear it correctly.

[Rulekeep]

Sorry to come off as negative, fellas. But when it comes to my safety, I try not to take any chances.

I've had my heart rhythm messed up, many years ago, by a ball to the chest. I was wearing a ribbed protector, and the kids were 9/10. Since then, it's been either a Douglas, Riddell, or Wilson. Currently, it's a Platinum, as it has one large piece of hardshell that goes from my sturnum, up and over my shoulder. That would be the best protection, in my book.

Again, if the UE material is good enough to protect my ribs and bones over my heart, why isn't it good enough for my kneecap or collarbone? I'm not saying it isn't. And, if it were, that would be a great revolution in protection. No more bulky plastic, just flexable Kevlar. That would be outstanding, and I'd buy two, tomorrow.

But the logic escapes me. Why reenforce certain parts with plastic plates, but not others?

Kyle, besides the obvious protection you get from the kevlar in the shin guards? I said it before and here it is again. THE WOW FACTOR!!!!!! Who is going to buy boring looking products? If there was no hard shiny plastic on the outside nobody would buy them.

I don't care if my gear is bright pink with glitter on it or if it's just a hunk of gray plastic, if it protects me, and protects me well, I will wear it.

[gnhbua93]

Sorry to come off as negative, fellas. But when it comes to my safety, I try not to take any chances.

 

I've had my heart rhythm messed up, many years ago, by a ball to the chest. I was wearing a ribbed protector, and the kids were 9/10. Since then, it's been either a Douglas, Riddell, or Wilson. Currently, it's a Platinum, as it has one large piece of hardshell that goes from my sturnum, up and over my shoulder. That would be the best protection, in my book.

 

Again, if the UE material is good enough to protect my ribs and bones over my heart, why isn't it good enough for my kneecap or collarbone? I'm not saying it isn't. And, if it were, that would be a great revolution in protection. No more bulky plastic, just flexable Kevlar. That would be outstanding, and I'd buy two, tomorrow.

 

But the logic escapes me. Why reenforce certain parts with plastic plates, but not others?

 

 

 

Sorry to come off as negative, fellas. But when it comes to my safety, I try not to take any chances.

 

I've had my heart rhythm messed up, many years ago, by a ball to the chest. I was wearing a ribbed protector, and the kids were 9/10. Since then, it's been either a Douglas, Riddell, or Wilson. Currently, it's a Platinum, as it has one large piece of hardshell that goes from my sturnum, up and over my shoulder. That would be the best protection, in my book.

 

Again, if the UE material is good enough to protect my ribs and bones over my heart, why isn't it good enough for my kneecap or collarbone? I'm not saying it isn't. And, if it were, that would be a great revolution in protection. No more bulky plastic, just flexable Kevlar. That would be outstanding, and I'd buy two, tomorrow.

 

But the logic escapes me. Why reenforce certain parts with plastic plates, but not others?

Kyle, besides the obvious protection you get from the kevlar in the shin guards? I said it before and here it is again. THE WOW FACTOR!!!!!! Who is going to buy boring looking products? If there was no hard shiny plastic on the outside nobody would buy them. As far as the heart issue goes, I had a six way bypass in 2008 and I feel extremely safe in my Force 3. I don't need to hear a big crashing sound to feel safe. I know it every time I take a shot. I had an original West Vest for years and years and nobody can tell me that they don't feel it when they get hit by an 85 mph fast ball. That is just an incorrect statement. The shinguards I don't trust are the All star system 7 lgu 2000. I was hit in the shins twice and it f*&^ng hurt like hell. Bought some Wilsons and sold the All Stars. Also had purchased the All Star cpu 4000 to com[pare with the Force 3 and liked the Force 3 better. Ah, collarbone protection. Look at the hard shells and let me know if you have anymore protection in that small amount of padding? You don't and will have no protection on any chest protector if you do not wear it correctly.

 

I had this SG in my hands and they're a really solid piece of equipment.  When my time comes to get new SG those will be my option, hands down.

 

 

 

Sorry to come off as negative, fellas. But when it comes to my safety, I try not to take any chances.

I've had my heart rhythm messed up, many years ago, by a ball to the chest. I was wearing a ribbed protector, and the kids were 9/10. Since then, it's been either a Douglas, Riddell, or Wilson. Currently, it's a Platinum, as it has one large piece of hardshell that goes from my sturnum, up and over my shoulder. That would be the best protection, in my book.

Again, if the UE material is good enough to protect my ribs and bones over my heart, why isn't it good enough for my kneecap or collarbone? I'm not saying it isn't. And, if it were, that would be a great revolution in protection. No more bulky plastic, just flexable Kevlar. That would be outstanding, and I'd buy two, tomorrow.

But the logic escapes me. Why reenforce certain parts with plastic plates, but not others?

Kyle, besides the obvious protection you get from the kevlar in the shin guards? I said it before and here it is again. THE WOW FACTOR!!!!!! Who is going to buy boring looking products? If there was no hard shiny plastic on the outside nobody would buy them.

I don't care if my gear is bright pink with glitter on it or if it's just a hunk of gray plastic, if it protects me, and protects me well, I will wear it.

 

Rulekeep, you have issues kid. 

[umpstu]

Still scratching my head on the issue with the Force 3 shin guards having hard plastic on the outside. Let me get this straight. Padding. Kevalr inside padding. And another layer of hard plastic on the outside of the shin guards in the front section. So, three different types of protection and there is some question about the protection this product is going to provide you? Seriously?

[Recontra]

"Still scratching my head on the issue with the Force3 shin guards having hard plastic on the outside. Let me get this straight. Padding. Kevlar inside padding. And another layer of hard plastic on the outside of the shin guards in the front section. So, three different types of protection and there is some question about the protection this product is going to provide you? Seriously?"

 

kind of sums up my puzzlement as well.  Santa left some Force3 shin guards under the tree.  I immediately put them on over my Wranglers.  Fit tight, very low profile, ultra light weight, as well as an extra layer of kevlar protection undoubtedly for some additional lateral dispersion of force in addition to the plastic and foam layers which provide direction of force protection.  After I had them on for about an hour, I forgot they were on my legs. Jumped into my truck to go to a convenience store and noticed they were still hugging my shins--how silly did that look?  That never would have happened with my Wilsons.  It's impossible to not notice when those are still on.  I like the Force3's so far, and am glad Santa came through for me.  I have enough confidence in the folks developing and marketing the Force3 products to give their new releases a shot before they've been fully forum-approved, but I certainly understand why perhaps most consumers want to wait until more thorough real life field test stories get circulated.  Some guys buy the latest and greatest new electronic devices as soon as they are released.  Not me.  Some guys wait till the new electronic products have been more widely disseminated and tested by the masses.  That's me.  I don't criticize those who stand in line to get a new cell phone the day it's released.  I actually applaud them, and I wait in earnest for their real-life feedback to help shape my decision to buy or not buy.

 

Sometimes I wonder if some of the Force3 naysayers and arm chair critics (not all, but perhaps some) might have more of a personal concern with Jim Evans than with the umpire products the company he is associated with continues to develop and market--Notwithstanding cardiac arhythmia, of course.  Heck, if I had cardiac arhythmia, I'd still have my Platinum, and would undoubtedly also have an additional ring shaped Wendy's pad circling my heart.  If I had a broken fibula or tibia or problems with my lower legs, I'd still wear the bullet proof Wilson Pro black shin guards--the protection is worth the decreased mobility.   

[umpstu]

"Still scratching my head on the issue with the Force3 shin guards having hard plastic on the outside. Let me get this straight. Padding. Kevlar inside padding. And another layer of hard plastic on the outside of the shin guards in the front section. So, three different types of protection and there is some question about the protection this product is going to provide you? Seriously?"

 

kind of sums up my puzzlement as well.  Santa left some Force3 shin guards under the tree.  I immediately put them on over my Wranglers.  Fit tight, very low profile, ultra light weight, as well as an extra layer of kevlar protection undoubtedly for some additional lateral dispersion of force in addition to the plastic and foam layers which provide direction of force protection.  After I had them on for about an hour, I forgot they were on my legs. Jumped into my truck to go to a convenience store and noticed they were still hugging my shins--how silly did that look?  That never would have happened with my Wilsons.  It's impossible to not notice when those are still on.  I like the Force3's so far, and am glad Santa came through for me.  I have enough confidence in the folks developing and marketing the Force3 products to give their new releases a shot before they've been fully forum-approved, but I certainly understand why perhaps most consumers want to wait until more thorough real life field test stories get circulated.  Some guys buy the latest and greatest new electronic devices as soon as they are released.  Not me.  Some guys wait till the new electronic products have been more widely disseminated and tested by the masses.  That's me.  I don't criticize those who stand in line to get a new cell phone the day it's released.  I actually applaud them, and I wait in earnest for their real-life feedback to help shape my decision to buy or not buy.

 

Sometimes I wonder if some of the Force3 naysayers and arm chair critics (not all, but perhaps some) might have more of a personal concern with Jim Evans than with the umpire products the company he is associated with continues to develop and market--Notwithstanding cardiac arhythmia, of course.  Heck, if I had cardiac arhythmia, I'd still have my Platinum, and would undoubtedly also have an additional ring shaped Wendy's pad circling my heart.  If I had a broken fibula or tibia or problems with my lower legs, I'd still wear the bullet proof Wilson Pro black shin guards--the protection is worth the decreased mobility.   

I think these are going to wind up being the shin guards that give me the most protection of any I have owned. With three layers of protection logic dictates that. Can't wait to strap them on in a game.

[grayhawk]

Still scratching my head on the issue with the Force 3 shin guards having hard plastic on the outside. Let me get this straight. Padding. Kevalr inside padding. And another layer of hard plastic on the outside of the shin guards in the front section. So, three different types of protection and there is some question about the protection this product is going to provide you? Seriously?

 

My only question on the protection these provide is in the ankle area.  Those "wings" look similar to those on the All Star LGUs, though with what looks to be some thicker padding.  Seems to me the perfect shin guards would be like the UE's, but with the wrap around ankle protection that the Wilson's and Douglas' provide.

[slo8140]

The ankle protection on my force 3 appears much more substantial to that on my all-star. I don't think they will flair out as much either.

[umpstu]

The ankle protection on my force 3 appears much more substantial to that on my all-star. I don't think they will flair out as much either.

The protection in the front section at the ankle location is more substantial as well.

[kylejt]

Let me try again.

 

IMO, those shinguard might be the best protecting ones on the market today. There's no doubt in my mind that the UE padding, like the Team Wendy pads, contribute greatly to dispersing energy. I'm all for better products, fellas. The combination of plastic plates, and that innovative material is great.

 

But remember, the first generation chest protector had no collarbone plates. That was added later. Why? (because it won't protect from the impact of a baseball on that bone). So why should I trust the fabric to protect my heart, if it can't protect my collarbone? That's my only point in all this UE flap.

[umpstu]

Let me try again.

 

IMO, those shinguard might be the best protecting ones on the market today. There's no doubt in my mind that the UE padding, like the Team Wendy pads, contribute greatly to dispersing energy. I'm all for better products, fellas. The combination of plastic plates, and that innovative material is great.

 

But remember, the first generation chest protector had no collarbone plates. That was added later. Why? (because it won't protect from the impact of a baseball on that bone). So why should I trust the fabric to protect my heart, if it can't protect my collarbone? That's my only point in all this UE flap.

I have the first generation UE chest protector and I'm not clear of what your idea of collarbone protection is? If you're wearing your protector correctly, up near your neck, you shouldn't have any issues with collarbone protection.