Basic Rules

[soapbox]

Worked a SB Tournament this weekend. Back when I coached, there were a limited amount a "Club Teams" along with town All-Star Teams. Now, every day, a new organization seems to blossom. So these teams are taking a boat load of cash from parents for kids who are not very strong players. That's fine! But we had a d3k situation where ball bounced in dirt first. Every single coach calling for our head because F2 picked clean out of the dirt. You want to run these clubs, fine. You want to have several teams throughout at different ages to make $$, whatever! Can you at least know basic rules? Nothing earth shattering, just the basics please.

[Jocko]

@soapbox - not sure what you're saying. Did HP signal no catch?

[ricka56]

Once you accept an assignment, you have no control of the quality of players/coaches. This shouldn't take much game management effort. If it takes more effort, deal with it.  ...no need to climb on a soapbox

[grayhawk]

I had this play this weekend.  Swinging strike three hits dirt and F2 picks it.  I give the "safe" signal and F2 says he got it.  I simply reply "no".  He throws to first and they get the out.  He then says that he picked it clean and I said that I clearly heard it hit the dirt before the glove.  He said that it did hit the dirt but he caught it clean after that and asks if he still has to tag him when that happens.  This was a varsity fall game!

[ricka56]

I had this play this weekend.  Swinging strike three hits dirt and F2 picks it.  I give the "safe" signal and F2 says he got it.  I simply reply "no".  He throws to first and they get the out.  He then says that he picked it clean and I said that I clearly heard it hit the dirt before the glove.  He said that it did hit the dirt but he caught it clean after that and asks if he still has to tag him when that happens.  This was a varsity fall game!

Maybe the real varsity F2 was at football practice...common around here...I never know what to expect in FallBall.

[grayhawk]

 

I had this play this weekend.  Swinging strike three hits dirt and F2 picks it.  I give the "safe" signal and F2 says he got it.  I simply reply "no".  He throws to first and they get the out.  He then says that he picked it clean and I said that I clearly heard it hit the dirt before the glove.  He said that it did hit the dirt but he caught it clean after that and asks if he still has to tag him when that happens.  This was a varsity fall game!

Maybe the real varsity F2 was at football practice...common around here...I never know what to expect in FallBall.

 

 

Same thing here, but a freshman F2 should know this rule!

[mbrown2097]

Not going to happen.  Some coaches think that they already know the rules, no need in reading them. 

I video taped a coach yelling "you must step off to throw to 1st base from the rubber."  He took a pretty good tongue lashing from U1.  Then proceeded to announce "I know what I am talking about." 

[KLAH316]

Same thing happens when the batter hits one off the plate and the coach starts screaming "It hit the plate!!"  Yes coach, it sure did!

[mbrown2097]

Same thing happens when the batter hits one off the plate and the coach starts screaming "It hit the plate!!"  Yes coach, it sure did!

Love watching a coach's expression when you agree with them and still don't give them their expected call.

[KLAH316]

 

Same thing happens when the batter hits one off the plate and the coach starts screaming "It hit the plate!!"  Yes coach, it sure did!

Love watching a coach's expression when you agree with them and still don't give them their expected call.

 

Or, how about this one:

 

Sorry coach, this isn't football/basketball, the line is in......

[mstaylor]

Same thing happens when the batter hits one off the plate and the coach starts screaming "It hit the plate!!"  Yes coach, it sure did!

Love watching a coach's expression when you agree with them and still don't give them their expected call.

I do it all the time. I agree they saw it exactly correct. When they complain,I say, nope.

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[umpcoachfather]

reminds me of this one - This was a special tournament held at the end of the season. 

 

Coach -  That hit the plate (walking towards me)

Me - yes it did (called time here, VP of league behind me doing scoreboard)

Coach - then its foul ( getting loud)

Me - no its not,  go back to the box. 

Coach - your an idiot if you think its a fair ball (or somethign similar, but he called me an idiot)

Me - calmly - your gone, enjoy the rest of the evening. ( I proceeded to clean the plate)

Coach - why because I'm right 

Me - no because you called me an idiot.  Discussion over please leave. 

Coach - (to VP) Do you believe this?

VP - yep - you called him an idiot, we'll discuss your punishment at the next meeting.

 

At that time my wife was on the board (the reason why I was doing the game), so when that discussion came up she recused herself - but enjoyed the meeting and fille dme in afterward.  The umpires in the room told him how wrong he was and suggested he read a rule book. He was read the riot act.  Since it was the end of the year he was told anything the following year and he'd be gone for good (if he wanted/was picked to coach again).    I've saved the best for last.  This was a T-ball tourney for the kids in the league.  They get 5 pitches to hit and if they can't the T is brought in for them, they get 3 outs or bat the entire order which ever comes first.  His son was the batter. 

I coached his other son in football and he still wont talk to me. 

[catsbackr]

So....he's mad at you because he's stupid?

[KLAH316]

reminds me of this one - This was a special tournament held at the end of the season. 

 

Coach -  That hit the plate (walking towards me)

Me - yes it did (called time here, VP of league behind me doing scoreboard)

Coach - then its foul ( getting loud)

Me - no its not,  go back to the box. 

Coach - your an idiot if you think its a fair ball (or somethign similar, but he called me an idiot)

Me - calmly - your gone, enjoy the rest of the evening. ( I proceeded to clean the plate)

Coach - why because I'm right 

Me - no because you called me an idiot.  Discussion over please leave. 

Coach - (to VP) Do you believe this?

VP - yep - you called him an idiot, we'll discuss your punishment at the next meeting.

 

At that time my wife was on the board (the reason why I was doing the game), so when that discussion came up she recused herself - but enjoyed the meeting and fille dme in afterward.  The umpires in the room told him how wrong he was and suggested he read a rule book. He was read the riot act.  Since it was the end of the year he was told anything the following year and he'd be gone for good (if he wanted/was picked to coach again).    I've saved the best for last.  This was a T-ball tourney for the kids in the league.  They get 5 pitches to hit and if they can't the T is brought in for them, they get 3 outs or bat the entire order which ever comes first.  His son was the batter. 

I coached his other son in football and he still wont talk to me. 

..... Yet another reason why anything below KID PITCH should NEVER have an Umpire..... It's instructional!!

[Richvee]

Same thing happens when the batter hits one off the plate and the coach starts screaming "It hit the plate!!"  Yes coach, it sure did!

I'm amazed at how many times I hear this. 

[Larry in TN]

As a scorer and rule-geek I run into this all the time.  Most people aren't that interested in the rules.  They think they know "enough' and aren't willing to put in the effort (sometimes significant effort) to learn all the details.  They're much more concerned with working on their batting average, pick-off move, or their next ill-conceived trick play.