Is a fielder's glove part of his body?

[keydetpiper]

For the purposes of tagging a base during a force out, is a fielder's glove considered part of his body? In other words, if the fielder has the ball in his throwing hand and touches the base with his glove while maintaining possession of the ball all the way through, has he met the definition of a tag to successfully retire the runner?

[James Walker]

Yes. As long as the fielder has possession of the ball, then he can do a hand stand on the base for all I care.

[mrumpiresir]

Yes.  If properly worn, and the glove touches the bag while the ball is securely held in the throwing hand, you have an out.  No different than his shoe touching the bag.

[UmpJM]

keydetpiper,

 

Technically, it's part of his "person" - assuming it's being properly worn, of course.

 

The PERSON of a player or an umpire is any part of his body, his clothing or his

equipment.

 

JM

[keydetpiper]

That was my thinking. Thanks!

[Thunderheads]

I like to look at it this way, .... as an explanation to an argumentative coach who doesn't get it ....

 

"what's the difference between his empty glove and his foot?"

[maven]

keydetpiper,

 

Technically, it's part of his "person" - assuming it's being properly worn, of course.

 

The PERSON of a player or an umpire is any part of his body, his clothing or his

equipment.

 

JM

 

Ah, so the bat is part of the hands!?! 

[Rich Ives]

 

keydetpiper,

 

Technically, it's part of his "person" - assuming it's being properly worn, of course.

 

The PERSON of a player or an umpire is any part of his body, his clothing or his

equipment.

 

JM

 

Ah, so the bat is part of the hands!?! 

 

 

Bat isn't equipment

[UmpJM]

Only in cricket.

 

JM

[Rich Ives]

For the purposes of tagging a base during a force out, is a fielder's glove considered part of his body? In other words, if the fielder has the ball in his throwing hand and touches the base with his glove while maintaining possession of the ball all the way through, has he met the definition of a tag to successfully retire the runner?

 

Is the fielder's shoe part of his body?

[bam]

 

 

keydetpiper,

 

Technically, it's part of his "person" - assuming it's being properly worn, of course.

 

The PERSON of a player or an umpire is any part of his body, his clothing or his

equipment.

 

JM

 

Ah, so the bat is part of the hands!?! 

 

 

Bat isn't equipment

 

But the glove is? 

 

Look at FED 1-3 and then 1-5 and come back to me with a better response. 

[maven]

Bat isn't equipment

Nice try.

 

OBR 1.17: "Playing equipment including but not limited to the bases, pitcher’s plate, baseball,

bats, uniforms, catcher’s mitts, first baseman’s gloves, infielders and outfielders gloves

and protective helmets..."

 

FED 1-3-5.

[Rich Ives]

 

Bat isn't equipment

Nice try.

 

OBR 1.17: "Playing equipment including but not limited to the bases, pitcher’s plate, baseball,

bats, uniforms, catcher’s mitts, first baseman’s gloves, infielders and outfielders gloves

and protective helmets..."

 

FED 1-3-5.

 

 It isn't player's properly worn equipment.  Or can a player pick up a base and, while holding the ball, tag a runner with the base? Or better yet, an out of position catcher could pick up a discarded bat and use it to extend his reach and tag a runner on a force play at the plate.

[mrumpiresir]

This is the nuttiest thread I have read in a long time.

[Rich Ives]

This is the nuttiest thread I have read in a long time.

 

This subject always gets nutty when someone asks if you can touch a base with a glove.

[noumpere]

 

keydetpiper,

 

Technically, it's part of his "person" - assuming it's being properly worn, of course.

 

The PERSON of a player or an umpire is any part of his body, his clothing or his

equipment.

 

JM

 

Ah, so the bat is part of the hands!?! 

 

If the fielder is carrying a bat and then touches the base with the bat, sure -- I'd get an out.

[Rich Ives]

 

 

keydetpiper,

 

Technically, it's part of his "person" - assuming it's being properly worn, of course.

 

The PERSON of a player or an umpire is any part of his body, his clothing or his

equipment.

 

JM

 

Ah, so the bat is part of the hands!?! 

 

If the fielder is carrying a bat and then touches the base with the bat, sure -- I'd get an out.

 

 

You forgot the

[Jimurray]

Uh oh, what if the fielder is carrying a bat to use as a cane (men's senior baseball).

[maven]

It isn't player's properly worn equipment.  Or can a player pick up a base and, while holding the ball, tag a runner with the base? Or better yet, an out of position catcher could pick up a discarded bat and use it to extend his reach and tag a runner on a force play at the plate.

Why wouldn't you have said that the first time, instead of the patently false claim that the bat is not equipment?

[BigSimonia]

This is the nuttiest thread I have read in a long time.

+1

[Rich Ives]

 

It isn't player's properly worn equipment.  Or can a player pick up a base and, while holding the ball, tag a runner with the base? Or better yet, an out of position catcher could pick up a discarded bat and use it to extend his reach and tag a runner on a force play at the plate.

Why wouldn't you have said that the first time, instead of the patently false claim that the bat is not equipment?

 

 

Because the discussion is about properly worn equipment and a bat isn't that kind of equipment.