BigSimonia

This is the "purest" judgment call in baseball. As an umpire, in your judgment did the batter intend to offer/swing at the ball?

I think the misconception is based on the fact that the batter is out regardless of whether F6 (or whomever) catches the IFF. The thinking goes that since the batter is out the fact that the IFF is caught is immaterial. I am well aware that that thinking is NOT correct, but I think that's the basis for misunderstanding

You might be right, and maybe "hell-bent" was over the top. Here's what I saw: you asked at the outset whether a certain action constituted OBS, a significant number of posters told you 'no', and you began to argue in favor of OBS. There is nothing wrong in talking it out - wouldn't be the first time that a "significant number of posters" were wrong

How about this: . catcher Derek Norris juuuuuuust caught this foul tip off the bat of Colby Rasmus: — Cut4mer (@Cut4mer) From the box score it appears this was treated as a foul tip strike and not a foul ball caught

So in effect you're treating this runner's interference as a delayed dead ball?

OK - since F1 is no longer a pitcher (having stepped off the plate) and therefore there is no pitch and no batted ball to field, the award is a hybrid between a throw by a pitcher into DBT (which is ONE base, time of PITCH) and the first throw by an infielder on a batted ball (which is TWO bases time of PITCH) resulting in TWO bases time of THROW - as it would be on a throw into DBT from an outfielder or on the second play by an infielder (at least that's what 8.3.3E says) Is that correct/

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I was told early in my umpiring career that as soon as you make that 3rd out call on a banger, you make a beeline for SRF - Now the coach has to come all the way out of the dugout and start walking towards you (its too far to run for most of these guys) - if they know they have to go that distance to get to you, all of a sudden they start to think that maybe it wasn't that close after all and head back to the dugout.

If the defense is a clueless as the offense they might not appeal. Or, they might not be clueless and want to see who the next batter is. A later appeal might move them thought the top of the order. Then during the timeout the OC asks you who he should bat next. What do you tell him? "The proper batter bats next, coach" Disagree. If I'm asked a specific question like that, I'm going to give as specific an answer as I can. Maybe it's just "B2 (or #xx) is on first, so B3 (or whoever is after #xx) is the next batter" (especially if I don't have a line-up card). Not my job to tell the coach who he should bat next. Who he should bat next is up to the coach to decide.

If the defense is a clueless as the offense they might not appeal. Or, they might not be clueless and want to see who the next batter is. A later appeal might move them thought the top of the order. Then during the timeout the OC asks you who he should bat next. What do you tell him? "The proper batter bats next, coach"

I think what I'd do is call "Time", charge the HT with an offensive conference (If FED); tell the HTC he can't appeal BOOT; return B2 to 1st and then let it play out from there - At that point I'm assuming VTC has woken up to the BOOT issue and will appeal (or not). If he appeals, B1 is out, B2 is removed and B2 returns to bat. Getting an out for abandonment seems to me to be OO and needlessly grabbing the wrong end of the stick

Yes

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Also, unless I see something different, is U3 not seeing this. I'm with you - how did he miss this? What else was he looking at? I'm assuming from the very end of the video that when they made the appeal to 3rd he indicated "safe" and it was that call that was appealed to NY. But, jeez, even in a 2 man game PU would be watching for this

Why would you even think that is possible? There is no such thing as a stupid question. He didn't know; as a guest he's specifically invited to ask: "Our umpires will be happy to answer your rules related questions". No need to get huffy