Nice call at first!

[Thunderheads]

Or as I like to say ...

"No, no, no he's off the bag!"

http://www.mlb.com/v...075763&c_id=mlb

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=25075763&topic_id=&c_id=mlb&tcid=vpp_copy_25075763&v=3

[mstaylor]

Looks like he was just short of the bag, but once again not the right camera angle to be sure.

[BRUMP]

Good call.

[JaxRolo]

None of the replays have a good angle. But going by the reactions looks like a good call.

[Thunderheads]

None of the replays have a good angle. But going by the reactions looks like a good call.

Agreed

There's nothing "conclusive" that has him off the bag, but Guccione's emphatic call and the "no -argrument" from Chen tells the story! :D

[mstaylor]

None of the replays have a good angle. But going by the reactions looks like a good call.

Agreed

There's nothing "conclusive" that has him off the bag, but Guccione's emphatic call and the "no -argrument" from Chen tells the story!

Agreed

[dumbdumb]

There's nothing "conclusive" that has him on the bag either. When it is just the side of the foot against the side of the bag, only a camera set up right on the line would provide a conclusive picture.

Nice to see the plate umpire bust out and get set up for possible assistance if needed, since this has been lacking on some plays we have seen. Everyone, everywhere at all levels should be copying this plate umpire with his hustle up the line, all the time, not just as the spirit moves ya. Now, not everyone can get as far, but one should get as far as their abilities allow, but just standing with the catcher does not fit the abilities criteria, unless one has a handicap that would prevent this from ever being a possibility.

This is also a 2 steps fair positioning call when the outside edge of the foot will just brush up against the bag, and this umpire was perfectly positioned for this type of step. A 45 degree angle would be at a disadvantage on this one. Nobody knows 100 per cent of the time where the pitcher is going to step on this play. A step like this on the front of the bag with the pitcher having the time to step in front of the runner would have the 45 degree angle the best and the 2 step fair the worst since you could not see over the bag and the plate umpire could not help since he would be straight-lined with the side of the foot brushing the bag.

Sometimes, just luck of the draw with trying to anticipate with experience the exact perfect spot to be in when a step is not going to be on top of the bag.

[Guest]

There's nothing "conclusive" that has him on the bag either. When it is just the side of the foot against the side of the bag, only a camera set up right on the line would provide a conclusive picture.

Nice to see the plate umpire bust out and get set up for possible assistance if needed, since this has been lacking on some plays we have seen. Everyone, everywhere at all levels should be copying this plate umpire with his hustle up the line, all the time, not just as the spirit moves ya. Now, not everyone can get as far, but one should get as far as their abilities allow, but just standing with the catcher does not fit the abilities criteria, unless one has a handicap that would prevent this from ever being a possibility.

This is also a 2 steps fair positioning call when the outside edge of the foot will just brush up against the bag, and this umpire was perfectly positioned for this type of step. A 45 degree angle would be at a disadvantage on this one. Nobody knows 100 per cent of the time where the pitcher is going to step on this play. A step like this on the front of the bag with the pitcher having the time to step in front of the runner would have the 45 degree angle the best and the 2 step fair the worst since you could not see over the bag and the plate umpire could not help since he would be straight-lined with the side of the foot brushing the bag.

Sometimes, just luck of the draw with trying to anticipate with experience the exact perfect spot to be in when a step is not going to be on top of the bag.

This is perfect positioning for this play as conventional baseball teaching has F3 feeding F1, who is moving paralled to the 1BL, prior to his arrival at 1B, as what happened here.

However, if the play breaks down and the pitcher is going to be fielding a soft throw while on the base as the runner is hauling ass across the base, like what happened to Joyce I feel you should move to some kind of angle to allow a better perception of the play - but obviously stationary and in fair territory (unless pressured by a moron F4) at the moment the play happens, unlike Denkinger.

[mstaylor]

I feel you should move to some kind of angel to allow a better perception of the play

Wasn't there a movie about that?