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Just read this http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100603&content_id=10754770&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb . Found the coaches comments very interesting regarding the ejection: "Bryce was wrong for doing it, but he didn't deserve that," Southern Nevada coach Tim Chambers said in his postgame comments. "In a situation like this, it deserves a warning. That was an awful quick trigger. Bryce didn't stand there and argue the call. He walked right back to the dugout with his head down -- and bang. In my opinion, it was a terrible call. [umpire Don Gilmore] definitely wanted to be seen. I'll defend the kid all day long." Obviously this is just a coach defending his player but I disagree with him on that he should have been warned. How many of you guys let a batter, #1 prospect or not, get away with drawing a line in the dirt? Not me..:banghead:

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they are talking about it ending his amateur career? the kid is 17 years old, the only thing ending his amateur career is his desire to play in the pros ... play another year of college, and dont be a hotshot (this was his second EJ apparently)

but yeah, if you draw a line in the sand, there will be a line leading from the batter's box all the way to the parking lot as you drag your bat out of the stadium with you!

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Draw a line, pack your bags.

We saw a perfect example of this last year when Ichiro earned his first ever EJ for drawing a line on Runge.

ditto.........

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BYE BYE Mr number 1 pick.

That is BS by the coach. It is a chicken and egg arguement. Did the ump want to throw out the number one pick or did the number one pick do something to get tossed?

The umpire never gets anyone ejected. They eject themselves, the umpires just punch the ticket.

Keep all hands in feet inside the ride at all times!

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The umpire never gets anyone ejected. They eject themselves, the umpires just punch the ticket.

Keep all hands in feet inside the ride at all times!

I agree, what I was saying is that was the coaches arguement, that the plate wanted him to make a name for himself. Clearly Harper was wrong.

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"Bryce was wrong for doing it, but...."

Yeah, there's always a "but", isn't there?

In this case, there's a but, and a butt.

:wave:

And there you have it: Why we can never win with a Coach:

"He didn't do it" (the umpire was wrong)

"He did it, but the Umpire didn't warn him" (the umpire was wrong)

" He did it, but it was an important game, and the umpire shouldn't have called it" (the umpire was wrong)

"He did it, but they never call that" (the umpire was wrong)

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Guys a manager's number one concern is going to be his players, followed closely by his clubhouse. Umpires fall somewhere inbetween the media, and the smell of the washrooms in the stadium.

This is an example of an inexperienced JUCO manager looking after concern number one and two via the media, and not doing a very good job at that. I would say that the manager knows that Bryce earned his ticket, and that he is just trying to get an "Us vs The World" feeling to run through the clubhouse for the rest of the Championship.

Some managers are often champions at playing dumb, other are champions at being dumb.

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A little off topic but I was site managing an American Legion dbl headeryesterday. VT lost the first and was in the seventh losing again. The PU called an inside strike that looked good but I wasn't in the best spot. Then he rung him up on a pitch right down the pipe. He wanted to yak but walking. The problem he kept going all the way to the dugout. Partway there the PU told him to shut it down. The manager told the umpire he needed to leave the player alone because he was walking away. :WTF:rock The next batter also struck out and wanted to yak. The PU shut him down imediately. The last out was a weak grounder. As they are doing the handshake the manager comes after the PU telling him he has no right to talk to his players, especially when he is walking away. The PU was leaving the field and the coach came through the gate threatening to knock him out. I came between them, sent the crew to their cars and told the manager to get his ass back on the field with his team.

Where in the manual does it say you get to cheapshot the umpire as long as you are walking away. :beerbang:shrug:

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A little off topic but I was site managing an American Legion dbl headeryesterday. VT lost the first and was in the seventh losing again. The PU called an inside strike that looked good but I wasn't in the best spot. Then he rung him up on a pitch right down the pipe. He wanted to yak but walking. The problem he kept going all the way to the dugout. Partway there the PU told him to shut it down. The manager told the umpire he needed to leave the player alone because he was walking away. :WTF:TD: The next batter also struck out and wanted to yak. The PU shut him down imediately. The last out was a weak grounder. As they are doing the handshake the manager comes after the PU telling him he has no right to talk to his players, especially when he is walking away. The PU was leaving the field and the coach came through the gate threatening to knock him out. I came between them, sent the crew to their cars and told the manager to get his ass back on the field with his team.

Where in the manual does it say you get to cheapshot the umpire as long as you are walking away. :hopmad::bang:

Wow....exhibit #540,992 in the rat coach case.

Well, if you are one of those self-proclaimed-guru, oxygen-depleting rags like the one over on the Collegiate thread defending McDonnell, Louisville head coach, over his ejection and subsequent suspension, horsesh_t like that is just dandy, as is throwing your bat. :rollinglaugh:

Not only that, but so is blowing your top then bumping an umpire after being ejected...and the icing on the cake: It's all the umpires' fault for baiting. :bang:

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Guys a manager's number one concern is going to be his players, followed closely by his clubhouse. Umpires fall somewhere inbetween the media, and the smell of the washrooms in the stadium.

This is an example of an inexperienced JUCO manager looking after concern number one and two via the media, and not doing a very good job at that. I would say that the manager knows that Bryce earned his ticket, and that he is just trying to get an "Us vs The World" feeling to run through the clubhouse for the rest of the Championship.

Some managers are often champions at playing dumb, other are champions at being dumb.

Inexperienced JUCO Manager? Do you know what school Harper plays for? One of the best in America. I would argue that his school is better then alot of D1 programs. He deals with the media all the time. That wasn't the issue

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Well, guess the ejections didn't hurt after all...just saw on Sportscenter that Harper was picked #1 by the Nationals.

Thought Bobby Valentine was going to fall off his damn stool singing this kid's praises, "This kid is special; the lights will be bright for him..." yada, yada. :spit:

Sheesh, between Strasburg and Harper, you'd think it was the 2nd coming w/ the Nats.

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Well, guess the ejections didn't hurt after all...just saw on Sportscenter that Harper was picked #1 by the Nationals.

Thought Bobby Valentine was going to fall off his damn stool singing this kid's praises, "This kid is special; the lights will be bright for him..." yada, yada. :notworthy:

Sheesh, between Strasburg and Harper, you'd think it was the 2nd coming w/ the Nats.

There is no shock that he was the number one pick. No one was saying it was going to hurt him.

He is special and when real baseball guys like Bobby V are saying it, that makes you want to listen.

It is a huge deal. For a baseball team that is struggling to get people there, those last two drafts are huge. In the last two year they got maybe the most prized pitching and hitting prospects in history. This is a huge deal if I'm a Nats fan. With Zimmerman, Desmond, and the load of young talented pitchers they have it is a good time to be a Nats fan.

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Just read this http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100603&content_id=10754770&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb . Found the coaches comments very interesting regarding the ejection: "Bryce was wrong for doing it, but he didn't deserve that," Southern Nevada coach Tim Chambers said in his postgame comments. "In a situation like this, it deserves a warning. That was an awful quick trigger. Bryce didn't stand there and argue the call. He walked right back to the dugout with his head down -- and bang. In my opinion, it was a terrible call. [umpire Don Gilmore] definitely wanted to be seen. I'll defend the kid all day long." Obviously this is just a coach defending his player but I disagree with him on that he should have been warned. How many of you guys let a batter, #1 prospect or not, get away with drawing a line in the dirt? Not me..:D

The kid is a freaking CATCHER!!! If ANYBODY should know better than to draw a line in the dirt with his bat - it would be a catcher!!!

WHOOSH!!!!!! and the manager has his head up his @$$

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Jsut read in the book "As they see em" that one of the 13 things that are toss worthy without question is drawing a line where you think the ball was. So there you go.

drawing a line is one of the oldest immediate ejections in the game......and probably one of the biggest no brainers......

draw a line....follow it to the parking lot...


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