Richvee

This is what I’m envisioning.

OMG…..so true.

I ws OK until that note at the bottom...Caseplay 8.4.2 Y may have something to say about that note.

So he's not winding up like this every time? Does it now become an "alteration?"

Is there a rule that doesn't allow it? Maybe you can stretch "The pitcher must stand facing the batter"? But he begins facing the batter.

couldn't the same be said of a step towards first while winding up?

Right there..is the balk. Kill it That never happened. Time was called after the start stop balk.

One step backwards, one forward with the free foot. Pivot foot stays engaged. No hesitation or alteration. Starts in a windup position facing the batter. I don't like it, but I can't see anything illegal.

Too bad he didn't have an interpreter.

Now THAT would be awkward

That's a little redundant. Acknowledging the balk literally means the count stays the same

I think he's just referring to writing CR's , notes, etc. on the back. I'm trying to recall if I've ever seen a lineup card with subs listed on the back. If I did, they were probably written in by hand

Good point. Allude would be indirectly. You were rather direct. 😁👍

I disagree. He balked while engaged? Like a flinch, or stop start after coming set? There’s the balk… call time. There’s no play if after he balks he steps off. Play only continues on balks along the lines of no stop and F1 delivers the pitch, or balks for not stepping towards the base F1 throws to a base. (as @grayhawk alluded to….herein lies the problem with live balls in high school.

There’s many methods. I also like having it all on one side of the lineup card. I make sure I strike a line through a sub when he enters the game. I will circle ⭕️ a sub that courtesy runs and write CRC or CRP by their name.

Here’s what I’m envisioning. Rundown in progress, let’s use 3b/Home. Throw from F5 to F2. The runner, stops about 30 feet from home, turns inside (maybe on the infield side of grass dirt line) and starts back to 3b. After F5 throws to F2, F5 moves out of R1’s path. F5 is about 15- 20 feet towards home, and in the grass in foul territory. F6 moves to cover 3B. F2 is chasing R1 back to 3B, on the fair side of the line. R1 veers left, directly at F5 who was nowhere near the runner’s path to 3B, for the sole purpose of making contact to draw an obstruction call. If you’re saying interference is a miss applied rule here, would you go with out of the basepath? (Does F2 running him back to 3B constitute a tag attempt?). I can’t see this action being nothing.

I would look at this a little different. I'm not invoking any 3 foot rule here....There is no tag attempt being avoided. I would say, if the runner veered off his path to the bag to intentionally make contact with the fielder, I have interference. (IOW..an obvious attempt to try to draw an obstruction call, when in reality, if he just ran at the base, the fielder was not in the way) Pushing off him I wouldn't have flagrant or malicious....Lowering shoulder, throwing a forearm, malicious.

Yes. HTBT. was the fielder in the runnner’s bae PATH? (in his line between him and the base he was going towards)…..obstruction Or did the runner veer away from his path to the base to intentionally run into the fielder? (Quite possibly interference). As far as flagrant/ malicious? Complete HTBT. You know it when you see it.

You're far from "late" . I started at the ripe old age of 50. Sometimes I wish I started sooner, but I'm grateful I got to watch and coach my kids without having to split time between officiating and watching or coaching.

...And what happens when someone devises a thumb guard that is permanently attached to the batting glove?

Maybe LL is thinking along the lines of this guy..Saying kids under 13 really have no use for this. (not a valid reason to outlaw them IMO. Just throwing it out there as a possible reason. https://youtu.be/JezkhA4bHPg?si=PbaRaZIAsW_D39yV

Welcome! Lots of great info here. You can learn a lot.

I like the idea of treating it as a thrown ball, Although the rule tells us it's still a pitch. 2-28-4 A pitch ends when: the pitched ball is secured by the catcher comes to rest goes out of play becomes dead or the batter hits the ball (other than a foul tip) Funny how using this as an explanation, in a strange but logical way validates FED's D3K rule that interference must be intentional.

Good point