mrumpiresir

This is a force situation, so no run scores. Look up the definition of a force play, and it becomes clear. MODERATOR EDIT: Locked thread, question answered.

If the purpose is to prevent injuries from malicious collisions MLB could have added something to the effect of making obvious malicious contact illegal. This is a rare time the FED rule makes more sense to me.

Go do it, then you can determine if you want to do it again. I went to CDP once and it was an interesting experience.... but I would not go again.

I was trying to find a discussion of the play where A Rod says " I got it" as he is running to third base. My specific question is: Does MLB consider verbal interference as hindering the defense? I thought they didn't but a literal reading of 7.08(b) suggests the runner could be called out. What is the interpretation and is there an approved ruling?

Nice!

That's funny. I LOL

I should have said "If the BR is hit by a ball which is over fair territory, he is out. If the ball is over foul territory, it is just a foul ball".

Do you recognize that it's the position of the ball, not the runner, at the moment of contact that determines the outcome? Yes. Yes I do.

This is a rather long thread for something I thought was pretty simple. If the batter runner is hit in fair territory he is out. If he is hit in foul territory we have a foul ball. If he interferes with a fielder attempting to play the batted ball, he is out. Is there more to this?

I'm 64 years old with arthritis in my ankle. I have no trouble beating the runner who has to make his turn toward second to the working area inside the diamond. Maybe you should work on your "skills".

In general, I agree -- but there can be exceptions. Play; ball down the line, might go past the OF fence extended. Fiedler puts up his hands, then goes after the ball. I can see he picked it up on some gravel, but I don't know whether the gravel is beyond the fence. Went out. It was. Two bases. Good use of common sense, which is sadly lacking in many people I regularly interact with.

I wouldn't do this. You are giving the coach the idea that he can come out and ask you to get help on every call he disagrees with. I tell them it was my call, I had a good look at the play, and am 100% sure of my call. I think it makes you look like are indecisive or that you could be manipulated.

Jr Legion played under OBR. Pinch hitter receives a base on balls and then offensive coach enters a legal sub from the bench to run for the previous sub. Defensive coach comes out and says "You can't sub for a sub!! ??????

The runner must not interfere with the fielder attempting a play on a batted ball. I have interference on the BR

Ground rules are specific to situations on any given ball field, such as tree limbs hanging over the field or how to handle open bullpens. Umpires should use the proper terminology. What you are talking about is a book rule double. We don't need ground rules if the situation is covered in the rule book. You often hear ground rule double when a batted ball bounces and then continues out of play over the outfield fence. It's not a ground rule, it's a book rule.

Where did you get the authority to tell a player he cannot wear non prescription sunglasses? you know the rule book does not give you such authority. If they are truly distracting, Have them removed. If not, leave it alone. The only sunglasses, IMO that I won't allow are mirrored sunglasses.

I have worked in three different HS associations in the last three years and heard something I would like your comments on. A discussion took place in a HS association meeting concerning the mechanic for a time play being in effect. One of the more respected umpires said that if a play occurs, the base umpire should make the call immediately so the PU knows if the run scores before or after the out on the bases. I disagreed with this because it goes against everything we were taught about your timing on the call. See the play, look for secure possession, make a determination, make the call. Takes about a second. If I'm the plate umpire, I line up the play much as I would if I were getting in position to see a runner tagging up on a caught fly ball. I really don't pay attention to the BU, but if he has an out, because I saw the play I know which occurred first, and don't have a problem making the call. Has anyone heard of this?

Are you saying the runner from second base was tagged out before he reached third base? If so, this is a force out and the run does not score. (See the definition of a force play). I think you got it wrong.

Sounds like obstruction to me.

Your kidding! The book, your 24 years, and Ump JM can't convince him? I'll have to rephrase the question: Who trained him? I don't know the guy all that well. He seems to be a decent umpire but he was wrong about this. I haven't seen him since. You can lead a horse to water............

No, Not Yet.

While true, this principle does not apply to the OP. The BR reached 1B on a third strike not legally caught, which is not an award. That's true but we also disagreed on a scenario where the batter received a base on balls and the pitch subsequently went into dead ball territory. I should have brought this up in the OP. UmpJM gave you the rulebook reference for your OP. For the reference to the above OP you look in the same table in 8.2.9 and under the batter you will find #2: NO. BASES AWARDED DETERMINED FROM BASE OCCUPIED AT TIME OF: ONE BASE (runners) 1. Balk 1. Infraction 2. Pitch from pitcher’s plate thrown out of play 2. Pitch 3. Throw from pitcher’s plate goes out of play 3. Throw 4. Unintentional catch and carry 4. Pitch 5. *Catcher obstruction (if attempting to advance) 5. Pitch 6. Forced (because batter is awarded 1st base) 6. Pitch 7. Pitch strikes runner 7. Pitch ONE BASE (batter) 1. Walk 1. Pitch 2. Pitch thrown out of play on ball four 2. Pitch I understand the award is one base. I ruled that as I said in the OP. I simply wondered if a specific reference stating that base awards are not added together which is what my partner wanted to do. I thought UmpJM answered appropriately. PS I'm working lower level games because I have medical conditions which limit my mobility. After 24 years of umpiring, I am trying to cut back on the number of games I work, but the assigner won't let me.

The "rule of thumb" we typically use is the ball should reach the height of the highest fence height around the infield to qualify as an infield fly. So at most of my diamonds that's about 20 ft., maybe more Seriously??? This is not a good way to umpire.

Just to keep the website equitable and to back up Noumpire on another thread, why would you even ask this question? Ok, JV you get a break. But who is training you? I asked this question because my partner and I disagreed and nowhere in any rule book could I find anything that specifically addresses this situation. I ruled correctly because I follow these forums. I really don't understand why you would ask who trained me. I don't need your condescending attitude.

While true, this principle does not apply to the OP. The BR reached 1B on a third strike not legally caught, which is not an award. That's true but we also disagreed on a scenario where the batter received a base on balls and the pitch subsequently went into dead ball territory. I should have brought this up in the OP.